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Frank Meyer, a 911 dispatcher and volunteer firefighter charged with slave trafficking and sexual assault, committed suicide on Tuesday night while out on bail in Vermont.
Vermont State Police arrested Meyer, 39, a volunteer West Haven, Conn., firefighter, in Ludlow, Vt., on Feb. 27 after a sting operation in which the victim wore a wire.
Brett Bartolotta, a 42-year-old former firefighter with the department, was also arrested and charged in connection with the case.
Police said the firefighters bribed the boy with money and gifts, including a dirt bike and a hunting bow, since 2001 to get him to perform hundreds of sexual favors over the 12-year span.
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The boy first met Bartolotta when he went to a friend's house to ride dirt bikes and Bartolotta approached the teen to join his racing team, according to documents filed with Superior Court in Vermont.
Soon after, Bartolotta offered to sell the teen a dirt bike, which he could pay off in weekly installments, according to documents.
The interaction turned sexual when the teen was unable to make a payment, according to officials.
Bartolotta offered himself as someone for the boy to speak with about problems and also to teach him about sex, court reports states.
Bartolotta paid the teen for sex acts until he paid off the bike, according to court records.
About two weeks after the bike was paid off, it was stolen.
The victim told police that he thought, in hindsight, that Bartolotta might have stolen the bike to continue meeting at his house.
When Bartolotta eventually got married and sold his condo, Bartolotta would take the teen to houses of construction clients in the Ludlow area, according to court documents.
A year after the first meeting, Bartolotta introduced the victim to Meyer, and the sex acts would occur on Friday nights, prior to Saturday races, according to court documents.
Meyer is currently a volunteer firefighter for the West Haven Fire Department at Engine 23. he has been a 911 dispatcher for the city of West Haven since 1999, according to city officials.
He is also the captain of the explorer program, a department program for youths, and photos online show him standing in front of Explorer Post 3.
As time passed, Meyer brought teens from Connecticut to Vermont and once asked the victim to perform a sex act on another 17-year-old boy, according to court documents, but the teen refused.
Police said Meyer also asked the teen to alter his appearance to look young and boyish and offered to pay for a new hunting bow in exchange for sex.
Bartolotta was a former volunteer firefighter for the department several years ago and now lives in Cavendish, Vermont, according to O'Brien. He also served as a past president of the Explorers,according to the department's Web site.
Police made the arrests on Wednesday after the victim recorded a conversation with Meyer at a Vermont restaurant. On the recording, Meyer acknowledged knowing the victim since he was 12, and alluded to sexual acts, police said. After Meyer was taken into custody, police searched Bartolotta's home and took computers and a gray box into evidence.
When police interviewed Bartolotta. he admitted to a "minor sexual relationship" with the victim over a five-year period, according to police, then later admitted to a more in-depth relationship that involved bondage and sex toys.
He also told police that the sexual encounters happened when his wife was at work and out of the house so they would not be discovered, according to court records.
Meyer and Bartolotta were both charged with aggravated sexual assault and slave trafficking. Their bail was set at $50,000.
They each pleaded not guilty in court.
By NBCConnecticut.com


That was nice of him to save the state some money.
Ditto
He got off easy but at least the taxpayers aren't getting screwed.
I guess he was admitting his guilt. Ditto as well on saving the taxpayers a little bit of cash. Very thoughtful of him.
He should've killed his buddy first, then himself.
He should've killed himself before he destroyed the kid's life. I can't wait for time travel to be invented.
I will get back to ya, just as soon as i quit laughing..........
Looks like this "poor sick" individual got the kind of "help" he and his ilk so desperately need and deserve.
No no more. Or does that explain why volunteer fire departments are so slow to respond - staffed by zombies.
A story with a happy ending.
this is the justice our legal system does not have the strength to exact upon terds like him. God is good !
This is the exact same story they posted about 4 days ago.
The only thing they changed was the title.
Why no details on the suicide?
Horrible journalism.
thanks man!
One gay perv down. One to go. Someone should drop him a care package full of shiny new razor blades and sleeping pills.
I think whoever posted his bail just lost all of their property.
Blut - Happy ending? I am sorry, must have read a different article. A kid's life is forever ruined, a wife lost what she thought was her husband, and it doesn't say, but if he had kids, their lives are ruined. Yes, this dude is dead which is good... but no, no happy ending here.
We can only HOPE they lost it all...anyone who would bail a pos like that deserves to lose whatever they put up...hopefully, it was their home.
The only admirable thing he has done.
Hopefully his buddy is next.
Obama first 4 yr. in DC.: We need more teachers,police, bridges, & firefighters!
buh bye scumbag
Clearly, you not read the article before posting that dumb comment, big brother.
Wonder why Mr. Bartolotta hasn't taken the same way out--and save face and taxpayer's money. Or is he seriously thinking that, as a member of NAMBLA, he's got nothing to be ashamed of?
What a horrible thing to do--to use a position of trust and authority to abuse a minor. As far as I am concerned, convict him now and ensure he doesn't procreate. People like these deserve nothing less than castration.
At least he showed some decency in the end by killing himself.
Well, the boy did get a dirt bike and hunting bow...
"Another dead queer pedophile."
Hmmm...do you like it when they are dead straight pedophiles? The vast majority ARE straight.
"One gay perv down" Not sure what gay has to do with anything--although your homophobia is clear.
Keep your gay bashing BS to yourself. @!$%#ing animals.
Just a HAPPY ENDING for tax payers. Need to give the other one a rope. He can join his buddy in HELL.
Pedophiles are animals and have nothing to do with being gay.......
I don't know if this guy was gay, straight or bi...but what I do know is this:
He was a PEDOPHILE
some people always miss the biggest part of the picture...
Blutowski o.o.....you are an idiot & anyone else on here talking about "queers" as you put it....PEDOPHILE, hell yes....doesn't bother me if you are gay, straight or bi...it DOES bother me when you are a PEDOPHILE....sexually assaulting children should be punishment by death....
one less pedophile , but unfortunately they probably created another one in that kid and where was this kids parents in all this and why didn't they have a clue as to what was going on ?.poor parenting , plus...homosexuality is a big part of what is dragging the nation and the world into the toilet and they are in complete denial of it for the sake of a hug , 3 squirts and a dribble and an orgasm from a lick and a promise and the feeling of power over another human being..kinda' dumb if you think about it ???..risking eternal damnation for a cheap thrill & a good time for 10 minutes ??...1 2 3 here they come !! to belittle with shouts of homophobia , as if it were going to change my or anyone elses beliefs who sees homosexuality for what it really is , to defend their biological perversion as if it were something special instead of something that is really an immoral behavior..but as thay say "hate the sin , not the sinner"...seems to me satan has gotten the hold of their souls and is doing everything to not let go of them...1 2 3 now here comes the the anti-God/Bible people too....and we wonder why everything and society has been running into the sewer more so than usual of late ?....so-duh !..wake up and get a grip and see the light is my advice to you
Blutokowski, just like Jen said, he was a PEDOPHILE. There is no correlation of being gay and a pedophile. In fact, it has more to do if they, themselves were victims as children, then their sexual orientation.
This country needs to do more about pedophiles. I don't care about parental rights, when it comes to this subject, and every child, who has been a victim NEEDS and it should be mandated to go to therapy. If it isn't covered by their insurance, we, THE PEOPLE, should pay for it. If the therapy prevents those children from becoming pedophiles themselves, we wouldn't waste money in the future. Investigations, DNA tests, prosecution, jailing, trials, all cost a ton more, than spending money on therapy, not to mention, it helps cut the cycle of abuse, and can save thousands of more children, from being harmed this way. More than likely, he was a victim of molestation, when he was a child, and the same goes to the person who did it to him, and so on.
Sweet!
Now, if only the other guy would do the same!!
Blutkowski is a troll obviously.
My money is on the other guy commiting suicide within three weeks of this story. Atleast if he gets convicted, he"ll commit it before prison.
...and nothing of significant value was lost when this pedo killed himself.
Like most everyone here, I agree he is a pos pedophile and I am glad he put himself down. As for Blutokowski, although he was very crude about it, his statement is true. The victim was the same sex, hence him being a gay pedophile. Hopefully, the other guy, if guilty, will off himself as well.
I wish more criminals would commit suicide before their cases go to court. It saves so much time and money.
People try and defend this piece of scum by asking what does his pedophile ways have to do with being gay. Simple. He had sex with a boy, not a girl. That is being gay. Doesn't matter if he was married to a women. That was a ruse. There are plenty of gay men who married a women to hide the fact that they are gay. He was gay when he decided to have sex with another male. Plain and simple. He was a gay pedophile, period.
$50,000 bail? I've seen larger bails for uninsured motorists.
Just to be clear, those who claim pedophiles are "created" because they were sexually abused as children should note that many experts who weighed in on the Sandusky case have found that is NOT true. There is definitely something wrong with the way these people's brains operate vs. normal people and it is not always a clear choice for them as impulse control is also a part of their "damaged" brains. Does that excuse it, absolutely not...but definitely points out the issue is not as black and white or good vs. evil...but instead a tragedy produced by genetics and who knows how many things that can go wrong in a person's development both in and out of the womb.
Marie485962, I worked in Corrections for part of my life and we had a few pedophiles incarcerated, and also some psychiatrists and psychologists that worked with us. The experts told me that while being a victim of pedophilia was not a definite causation to becoming a pedophile themselves, they felt that it could be in some cases, either because it was the child's first sexual experience or because of genetics, since a lot of these perps tend to be family members. It is next to impossible to pin these it down, because the perps don't usually know themselves what caused them to want to sexually assault children. But I do know this: I've never seen one get rehabilitated. What turns a person on sexually will always turn them on sexually, they can repress it or hide it from others, but it will always be there. They also tend to be the most manipulative people you will meet, they will do anything to be around children and that's why you find them in many occupations that bring them in close contact with them. These guys we had would do anything, including risk their own lives by ratting out the other prisoners, to be allowed in the vicinity of children on visiting days. I think the only "cure" is what this guy did, suicide.
down with big brother banned for death wishing all gay people.
Find another site.
Perfect cover for a pedophile. And of course parents would entrust their sons to a volunteer firefighter and 9-1-1 dispatcher.
All the pervs have to do is look respectable, play the part and they're trusted.
Kind of like pedophile priests, or Jerry Sandusky.
Moral of the story: keep a close eye on your kids and don't be naive.
Kaybeetoys - you are completely correct. There are many perps out there that use these positions of trust and power to do just that....until they are caught. I work in healthcare and have a family member in law enforcement and unfortunately we see a lot of wrong all the time. Personally, I was sexually abused as a child by a man in our church, and then later gang-raped as an adult by a group of "buddies" out on the town - one of them was a firefighter, and one was a hospital administrator. They absolutely used their positions to garner my trust and "respect" and then took turns holding me down. It happens to the best of us, and I guarantee those parents never thought twice about allowing their kid to be around those guys. I was lucky enough to survive and now help other sexual assault victims. I hope this kid (now a man) can get through this and use this experience to help stop other perps. I pray for his healing, and I'm also doubly glad the perp won't be able to do this to anyone else anymore!
YEHAAAAAA. Another one bites the dust.
good riddance
Well, we know that neither of these guys would qualify to be pope, but maybe a parish priest.
What do you mean? Pope the Quitter was complicit in sexually abusing boys but still rose to the Top Clown position and even got h=to keep his Dorothy in the Land of Oz slippers.
The thinker, your comment is gold! Gold!
the thinker, do you have proof or are you judging him just because he is Catholic? That's what I thought. See, it is funny how people condemn those without even having the slightest. But I guess either you were there to see it or was a child that suffered it, otherwise, stfu.
And the attack on Christians continues! Say hello to Hugo when you all get to hell!
you can say hello in the mythical hell first, lee. as to the other - Prior cardinal ratface KNEW about the accusations and yet for some reason apparently chose to do NOTHING
@youdontknowjack, it's fashionable to bash Catholics here, so there's no use in attempting to get any type of valid response. I just chalk it up to Catholic envy, and ignore the trite little rants.
@farmall, hahahahaha.
Just the last 1,000 years of the Church of Rome's misadventures in Machiavellian global political intrigue, greed, GENOCIDE, torture, torment are more than enough for the world to form a 100% rock solid opinion of Vatican Inc. And it has, you just don't like that everyone else now fully understands what a hypocritical and highly destructive stinking pile of corruption that cult is and always has been. Read a history book; focus on the chapter entitled "The Inquisition". If still not swayed, read the next chapter on "French Huguenots" or the one on wholesale slaughter of natives in the New World by those of the Catholic regime, for no reason but gold and riches.
littlechanges; I doubt the Catholic church holds a candle to your secular, atheist gods like Hitler, Stalin, and Zedong. Churches are man's creation and are full of fault, don't blame God for your narrow minded, vacuous life. Open a few doors and you may find something fulfilling in this life you're wasting on hate.
Blutowski, this isn't about a person being "gay." It's about pedophilia and control over a minor. Pedophiles are straight and gay.
Educate yourself before you mouth off.
Well there is no doubt thet has been allot of evil things done in the name of religion, but I would contend that in some of these instances, religion was used by evil people as a means to an end, because it was so pervasive and integrated into peoples life. You have to remember, back in the day, there was not alot of avenues for young people to pursue a livelihood. Becoming a priest was almost a given for certain members of every family. Because of this, I would think some people that pursued this avenue may not have had the best of intentions. I would suspect that if another profession, say dentistry, provided such an an easy opportunity to power, we would have had allot more evil dentists, and the world would have been introduced to DMO's much earlier. Ha, guess that must make me an anti-dentite! I think you have to remember the context of the situation.
There are allot of good people of faith that provide kind and merciful acts every day, that mostly go unnoticed. Try not to hold people accountable today for things that happen hundreds of years ago. I am sure most of our cultures/ethnic groups/religions have some skeletons hidden in the closet.
Anywho, feel free to start sending me hate mail because I dared to disagree (even if slightly).
lee:
Wow, celebrating the eternal torture of a fellow human. And you wonder why some people "attack" christians?
describe:
Bull@!$%#. Grow up.
hambone?
You one of the Savage O'Bama voters?
Lee - are you trying to show us all how a good christian behaves?
because if so, you're failing MISERABLY.
remember, GOD IS WATCHING...so you believe.
Describe, Hitler was Christian - maybe you should go back an re-read elementary school level history books.
True, Hitler was born a Catholic, but even his inner circle of advisors would disagree as to what his real inner beliefs were, so it is useless for us to try and decipher them. The same elementary books you referred to would tell you that, maybe you could use a refresher course yourself? (Hey this being snarky can be fun!).
Anyway trying to distill rational thought from an twisted, irrational mind such Hitlers is a fruitless endeavor
Ack! double post!
lee,
I don't see how my voting record has anything to do with your comments or mine.
Hey Joe, your so right about Hitler. He was known to be heavy into methanphetamine, so you know he freaking crazy.
CelticPagan .... please keep you definitions crisp. Hitler may have pretended to belong to the Catholic faith but he was NOT a Christian. Nothing he did or said was consistent with a Christ-centered life and calling him a Christian is a gross distortion of the facts ... I suspect you know that.
@Gary #2.19~
While I'm not defending Hitler, by any means, I don't think using him as an anti-Christian example as you did is the best thing to do, under the circumstances. Any number of Popes, for example, Clement the 3rd, Innocent the 3rd and Gregory the 9th, to name three, epitomize your definition "Nothing he did or said was consistent with a God-centered life". These men alone were responsible for the deaths of many times the number of deaths Hitler caused by his policies, yet they were the Church and supposedly were the very definition of a "Christ-centered life".
You may argue that the Catholic church is completely different than the Protestant religion, but that is a total error, for Protestantism is the same root religion and was basically 'created' so that priests could satisfy their lusts of the flesh with God's 'blessing'. Everything else on the Whittenburg door was simply window dressing, and everything after that was, as my mother used to say, 'Made up as you went along'.
Hitler was a Catholic, and a very devout one at that. Read some history.
Well N.N, I would question what your definition of being a devout Catholic means, or at least at what time in his life you would be considered a devout Catholic. While, it is true he was born a Catholic, but by the time he was in power in the 1940's he did not sound like a catholic to me.
"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's
illegitimate child.
"Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.
The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
"Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
"...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
"Christianity is the liar....
"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests
of the State."
Hardly what I would consider the rhetoric of a devout Catholic eh?
This man was a devious manipulator. The people he surrounded himself with, could not agree on Hitler's true beliefs, so how are we suppose to decipher it 70 years later?
Perhaps you need to read some history yourself?
Anyway, as I said earlier. trying to derive rational thought from a twisted irrational mind is a fruitless endeavor.
Also NN, I am not sure where Gary made any use of Hitler as a non christian example, perhaps you are referring to the poster describe in post 2.8? Garry seemed to be reacting to Celtics post about Hitler being a christian as well. Also, I am not folllowing your tangent regarding the Protestant religion. I am not sure anyone was trying to nitpick if Hitler was a Christian or a Catholic. Seems you are going a little astray there.
I agree, Joe; Hitler was a master manipulator, and he had the Church right where he wanted them...in his pocket. Pius was his pal, and from many reports, meted out edicts that came from 'command'. I could play 'historical pizzing contest' with you all day as far as quotes from Hitler and the Church is concerned, but I won't, for a number of reasons. Rather, I would leave it at your eloquent statement that "Trying to derive rational thought from a twisted mind is a fruitless endeavour", which pretty much sums it all up, 'nit-picking' aside.
Funny how someone who needs the compensation of heaven, or the threat of hell, to do the right thing, can say that I, as an atheist, worship oppressive murderers. It didn't take religion for me and my husband to donate to food pantries, or bring home an old lady after she got hurt at the dog park, or to help anyone else, for that matter. We do it because we are empathetic to the needs of others, and not because we have to.
The issue is not accountability for the past but the continuance of corruption. Catholics of today turn a blind eye to the vile transgressions of priests, bishops, cardinals, and even the pope.
It's time for a thorough house cleaning in the Vatican. It won't happen because Catholics are ruled by fear.
Now hold on. If you follow the thread of the post, you would see I am responding to post 2.7
"Just the last 1,000 years of the Church of Rome's misadventures in Machiavellian global political intrigue, greed, GENOCIDE, torture, torment"
So that is exactly the context of what I was saying. We were clearly talking about the atrocities of the past. The context of the conversation does not change 4 or 5 days later just because you wish it. I am not responsible for something that happened 1,000 years ago, I am only responsible for things that I do now. I would venture a guess that the poster was baiting, and I did not even disagree. I just offered my view point on the matter.
Now as to the rest of your statement, I would agree that priests and Bishops, and even perhaps Benedict himself knew of these transgressions and covered them up, and that was an evil thing to do. I did not know, and I would speculate that most catholics did not know of these things and how deep this scandals run. Not knowing does not mean turning a blind eye. That is why it is called a cover up. They kept the truth from us. So explain to me who exactly is condoning these behaviors? At least where I live, church attendance has fallen off fast (or at least at an even faster rate), and so have the donations. People no longer give as they used to to the Bishops annual appeal. People are letting their feelings be known the best way they know how, and that is by not showing up, and not giving money. And I don't blame them, they feel that the church has let them down, and it has. What is suppose to be a place of safety and love has turned out to be (in some occasions) run by a nest of vipers. So how are we turning a blind eye? Should I blame you for not knowing secrets that the government holds? are you turning a blind eye? That's silly.
Your last statement makes no sense at all, I would almost suspect that your baiting as well. Catholics are ruled by fear? How exactly is that? Is this the middle ages, if I don't attend church and pay my tithe I will be branded an outcast? If you don't want to go, you don't go, no one holds a gun to your head and forces you to believe. I would put forth that in today's increasingly secular society, it is easier to not believe than it is to believe, which is exactly the opposite of how it was hundreds of years ago. I would also suggest that if one is ruled by fear, they would take the easier way out, and not believe as opposed to believe. I find that particular statement almost to silly to comment on (I said almost).
As for change, change is coming to the Vatican whether they wish it or not. Faced with seeming inevitable extinction, the Vatican will be forced to change to stay in existance, and I for one will welcome some change. How is that from an ignorant, fearful Catholic who turns a blind eye?
Anywho, I have now exhausted myself and I am going to take a nap.
Wow where I live Fire Stations are known as Safe Places to Go for Children in need of Help. Not going to let a few Disturbed Firefighters ruin it for all the First Responders.
Background checks, anyone ! Most communities are so happy to have volunteer firefighters they don't look twice. It's that or tax up the folks and pay for pros. Then you have to background 'em - more tax money. IF they find a perv, they hire em anyway, but they also hire mental health pros to take care of the staff - mo tax money. Then if someone screws up, they hire more people to deal with the screw up - mo tax money. Don't forget retirement at 20 to 25 years - mo tax money. That's how you have in 2009, 20% of the US workforce were gubmint employees and all gubmints bankrupt or teetering . So in some communities those volunteer guys look pretty good, so no background checks. Child safety zones indeed.
Absolutely. These two were sociopaths. They look for any "respectable" cover. No reflection upon the men and women who go into these jobs to help people!
Plus, every place I've worked has done a background check for volunteers. They did one on me as a volunteer, and then again when I became an employee! It's not difficult. They should be mandatory, though I don't know if doing one would have screened out these two clever manipulators.
There are a lot more sociopaths like these two in "respected" and "authority" careers than you want to know. They supposedly took this kid to be abused by a lot of men. There are other authority figures involved in this and other people who saw it and ignored it to save their own careers. Too many whistles and not enough people of integrity and courage to blow them to get rid of all the scum like this. If ANY man is spending time with your kids, he is a freak. This guy had a wife. People who let these sociopath "volunteers" spend any time with their kids are allowing a sociopath into their family. NO NORMAL MAN WANTS TO SPEND TIME WITH KIDS THAT ARE NOT HIS OWN. PERIOD.
Wow, TLee, do you have some unresolved issues of your own? I know lots of "normal" men (whatever you think that means) who have had careers as teachers, counselors, coaches, clergy, first responders, etc. None of the ones I knew ever did anything inappropriate with young people... period! If you really believe ALL of them are abnormal, it may be you need to look in the mirror. I spent over 30 years as an elementary and middle school teacher and found it a meaningful life's work to help young people learn to grow and think for themselves. I'm sorry if you find that abnormal. Very bizzare on your part, if you ask me.
He should have moved to Spain... The legal age of consent is 13 years old..
Not sure TLee is way off base. Look at the DC madam, Her lil black book loaded with the gubmints finest personalities. Course the senators not in the book were toe tapping in airport stalls trolling for another guy ! of Congressmen tweeting pics of themselves to their female interns, Of Governors in Argentina with their other woman while telling the folks back home they were hiking the trail, of NY Gov in a hotel in DC with a Pro, of the California Gov boinking the hired help. Didn't we just lose a couple of 4 star generals from the Tampa HQ for filandering ? We had a Prez caught staining the blue dress, while his defacto-VP Wife was screaming hate at reporters who merely reported the truth. Corruption, low morals and shenanigans are all over the US gubmint and the states. We are a third world country with big screen TV's and better cars !
Yeah, but did you see the pics of her? Who could blame him...
We had a "normal" guy as our scoutmaster when I was in the boy scouts. Older fella, no kids, married to the daugher of the local dairy farmer. He was great... camping trips, canoeing, rock climbing, you name it. He always organized activities that resulted in completing the requirements for merit badges, but didn't present it as such. When we'd meet after the trip, we'd review the checklist for the merit badge and realized we'd just completed it. Great guy, good mentor, good motivator. Plus, he'd bring chocolate mild from the dairy and heat it up for nearly unlimited hot chocolate by fire at night. Makes me ill to think of how many kids had horrible boy scout experiences after ours were so good and wholesome.
As RelaxJay described, I too am thankful for superb scouting experiences and over several years between the ages of 9-13 probably had 5 different scoutmasters. ALL were fine, service-minded and highly moral men that set a high bar for an example to follow and I became an Eagle Scout under their leadership. But at the same time, lots of other dads were involved with our programs and if there had been any inappropriate behaviour it would have been caught very, very quickly. Parents just can't punt when it comes to being involved and they have to take responsibility for making sure their kids are safe.
So, twodogsloving, if you see a woman you think is attractive you just boink her in the middle of the cul de sac, (kind of like two dogs would do) with the excuse that "who could blame you"???? What a wonderful example of moral behaviour and self control!!!
By the way, your screen name is repulsive but apparently it's consistent with your personal code of ethics.
Apparently you didn't see her picture either, dummy, it was sarcasm.
With all the child rapes happening in the public school system these two would fit right in as teachers. The catholic church doesn't even hold a match to the public school system when it comes to how many children are sexually abused.
So the victim is 24 now? That's how I read it.. And he was still performing sex acts with the arrestees? At some point a person has to take the initiative to stop being a "victim". I mean, once you're an adult, you can't blame anyone else for your choices.
Not that the pedos aren't responsible for what they did to him as a minor though.
Well, he did take action by contacting the police and working with them to catch him. Please remember that he had been manipulated for many years while a child, so that probably screwed him up psychologically. I think he must have had a terrible home that he could not tell his parents or a teacher or SOMEONE what was happening when he was a kid/ But you do have to wonder, once he was an adult , that if he did not want to continue this relationship he would have stopped it instead of waiting so long.
thats logical but in a victim mentality- there is a fear to break away. they have had a strong hold on him since his youth so the victims always give power to them. I see it in domestic abuse cases all day long in adults- they stay powerless
He probably lost his definition of "normal." Perhaps, yes, he had a dysfunctional home life, or was neglected, which tends to leave kids more vulnerable to be preyed upon. Also, as horrific as this is, some victims can experience some measure of pleasure or feeling of being "loved" - especially if they have nothing healthy to compare it to. It take real fortitude to get out of this twisted and confusing situation, and I'm glad that the kid could do so.
What I don't get is the firefighters' actions. They obviously knew what they were doing is wrong! Way to insult all first responders by using their positions of authority to mask their depravity. Most firefighters are men and women of honor.
This situation is much more complex for the victim than meets the eye. These so-called "firefighters" probably made him feel guilty for being involved in the first place and as if he couldn't stop them without major consequences of some sort.
Men that have sex with young teens will do anything to make sure their relationships remain intact.
Not to mention the fact that the boy has to come to terms with his own past actions and be willing to see everything publicized in the media.
I just hope he doesn't become a predator himself.
B.T.W. Dave, why do you blame the victim anyway? That's the predators job, not yours.
Dave sounds like a flaming lib........protect the guilty.
Your ignorance is shining brighter than the sun on a clear day. For 13 years I was molested by my father. By the time I was old enough to realize what he was doing to me was "wrong" I began to tell him he needs to stop and that is when the threats began. You want to know how all this ended once I finally told a friend in confidence? My mother did not believe...my father was right. The courts tried to run my life and split my family apart...my father was right. A couple of years later I graduated high school and left home. I did not see or contact my family for 18 years...my father was right. And that is not even the half of what I went through.
At 19 years old I met a man I thought was the most wonderful person in the world...until he started beating me up like a punching bag. Who do you turn to when no one helps you, not even the police even after he put me in the hospital twice? I began to think that all the abuse as a child and now into my adulthood is what I deserved. My self-esteem was so low because I believed him when he said no one else cares about me. I actually believe him because I had no place to turn. My family abandoned me so I guess that is what I was...nothing. This went on for four years until I met someone who did care about me...a complete stranger that had the balls to step in. What this man did for me was far greater than what any shrink would have done...let alone law enforcement. He dealt with my issues of not being able to trust anyone and my low self-esteem. To this day the biggest affect that lingers is not letting anyone help me when I fail or fall down, regardless if it was my fault or not. It is just part of who I am. It is nice to know that there are a few people who care enough to help even when it is difficult to understand. The pain and suffering is always more difficult on the inside than the bruises on the outside.
Through hard work and perserverance I put myself through 3 college degrees. I never had a roommate for various reasons. I had always worked full time and on an occasion I held a 2nd job to help pay for school. Encouragement from others was all that I allowed. There was also another battle I was dealing with...I was born with Cystic Fibrosis. Going through life battling a disease that has no cure while battling the rest of what life through at me sometimes made me want to give up. I lost the self-pity for most of the time but I certainly do not wish my life on anyone. People lack sensativity toward people especially when they do not know the shoes that person has walked in to get where they are. I blame it on ignorance. People should be grateful they are not up against these kinds of brick walls in life. I would like to see how they would handle situations where their hands are tied behind their backs and nowhere to turn to, but I would prefer if people stopped being judgemental toward others. Stop blaming the victim for not getting away. It is far more difficult than just walking away...it's knowing who to trust. People like Dave is one of the reasons victims have trouble coming forward...because the victim gets blamed.
and YOU RL - what are YOU a DUD RETHUG?
and you julie - you mean that you couldn't find someone bigger to teach him a lesson? IF the cops ignore physical abuse, then you need to continue up the ladder - try the sheriff or even go to the state and level a charge of "non-feasance" against the local non-responsive cops.
Julieann---good for you for making the best of a terrible childhood. You are a strong person and are not a victim of those who treated you so poorly. It breaks my heart to think of a child being treated like that.
And you put a fork in it, are nothing but a bully. Obviously you have not suffered abuse if you are putting the blame on a person who was abused since childhood. It is never the victim's fault.
Hey Dave,
Only a person who was never a victim or abused physically and mentally would make a statement like that. I was abused for over 4 years from 12-15. I'm 51 now. I only told my wife a few years ago. You have no idea how this eats at you over time. You feel fear all the time. You don't trust anyone. You cannot accept any criticism from anyone. Who could I turn to? My parents? I was threatened. I was humiliated. The humiliation on their part would have been too much take. What would the neighbors and all the relatives think! That's how my parents thought. I would have been blamed. I saved them from that pain. People who were abused who are now in their 70's still have not talked about it.
When you're 12 your mind is still being shaped and molded. When a abuser contaminates that development with his sick and twisted behavior, it changes you and your image of what you deserve. You are conditioned to think you're the problem... that you're crazy... that this is what you deserve. The abuser isolates the victim and at times makes the victim feel dependant on them for approval etc. That this man, at 24 came forward (especially with the additional stigma of being a male sex abuse victim) should be applauded. We should all embrace him and say it's ok and that it wasn't his fault. He deserves nothing less than our compassion and encouragement. My heart breaks for him... and as a mother of a young son I thank him for shining a light on child abuse. I pray that my son never goes through anything like this. Maybe by this man telling his story and by police going after them, other sick-o's will have fewer places to hide. That in turn helps us all.
Wouldn't it be nice if all criminals off'd themselves?! Preferably BEFORE committing crimes!
Criminals offing themselves BEFORE committing crimes? Before one commits a crime one is a common citizen. Only after performing an illegal act does one earn the title of criminal.
That was the point, the thinker. If they offed themselves before becoming criminals, then we would be blessed with having no criminals at all.
Way to THINKER inside the box...
Good riddance to a scumbag that didn't deserve to walk the earth.
He didn't want to be a sex slave in prison!
Seems to me that this man finally realized the error of his ways. He didn't want to be on the receiving end of what he dished out, so he voluntarily checked out.
He didn't see the error of his ways; he was just a coward who couldn't face his family and friends now that his perversion was out there for all to se. Coward who preyed on little boys. Good riddance. Bet it is hot where he is going!
unless he's cremated, it's cold in the dirt...(not that a dead body would notice...)
The only result in hoping bad people go to hell when they die is the ridiculous tolerance people have for the barbaric actions of others while they're alive.
Wish he had killed his buddy first twodogsloving! Save us all the cost. Sure is great to be gay! Prance around, molest children... Losers... And they can't have a normal life where in you have a man and a wife that are able to make babies? Cause that is how they got here... THINK ABOUT IT!!!
pedophilia is not a gay thing. it's a power thing. it's one adult who can't handle a normal healthy sexual relationship with another adult. pure and simple. they need someone that they can control.
You are so out of line. I just reported you. How dare you say such a hateful thing!
boysdad; The perv was married...I guess that sorta wipes out your "gay" theory.
Pedophiles generally live an outwardly "straight" life, and even have kids themselves, of which they make a big show, bragging and swaggering about. 'I'm the best dad in the world; I'm my boys' dad' is their front. That is one of the ways they gain confidence from their victims.
Hey Bret ....Follow your "friends" example....scumbag.
Okay, this is disgusting, but how is this considered "slavery"? The boys were manipulated into paying for objects with sex, I don't see how that is slavery.
whips and chains can be applied to the mind as well as the body "Homesick".... must you ALWAYS take the opposite of common sense?
Sorry, don't know why I wrote the plural, mean "boy was".
Isn't it common sense, IA, that the kid didn't live there, he wasn't imprisoned or kept from contact with others, so I still don't see how it can be called "slavery". Psychological manipulation, maybe, but why use the term slavery?
Maybe you shouldn't make blanket disparaging statements, either. I asked a simple legal question.
I wondered about the term 'slavery' too. The headline says slavery, but the article said he was charged with sex trafficking. They brought in teens from other states for sexual purposes, and since the teens were coerced, that makes it fit the definition (I think. I'm no expert, checked on wiki). Even though they weren't kidnapped or forced by gunpoint, the fact they can't legally consent might have something to do with it. Also, once someone becomes a victim, the abuser can continue to coerce them to 'participate' by threatening to tell (playing on their sense of shame).
Yank, I wondered the same thing. The prosecutor can call it whatever he wants, but i'm thinking it is a case of judicial overreach. They could actually lose the conviction by trying to trump it up.
Debra, that is a good point that I had not considered, but I still don't think it passes the smell test, the victim is in his twenties now.
homesick yank
I'm presuming that in this case, the word "slavery" isn't being used in the context as many of us would commonly think (whips, chains, shackles, oh my). You would have to look up the Vermont statute to get to the meat of the meaning, but I would guess that "indentured servant" might be somewhere in there...just sayin'.
I think the term slavery used in this context is referring to bringing the boys across state lines for sex. It's more of a trafficking offense, although "slavery" and "trafficking" are sometimes used synonymously.
A woman who is beat by her husband can leave any time, yet they don't. The agressor will twist the victim into thinking it is all their fault. I imagine this kid had a similar experience. Remember a 24 year old man can revert to a young teenage boy given the right psychological manipulation.
PC and Comments, I just looked up that statute and your both right, legally slavery and human trafficking are the same in vermont.
I think the key point is that the actions constitute coercion under the vermont lawand by giving the victim something of value it becomes a commercial sex act so it falls under that law.
The scary part is that if you buy a woman a drink and lie to her in order to get into her pants, that might also fall under this law.
And this definition of slave from Merriam-Webster fits: 'one that is completely subservient to a dominating influence.'
However these two 'men' coerced him made him their slave, he was subservient, a slave to their whims. They held him mentally & emotionally captive. That's why it took until he was 24 to try & break free.
I can't even imagine the scenarios for this poor kid, he's still a kid inside, but growing now...
I agree, slavery is reaching. It was definitely manipulation and strong coercion, but the child (now adult) was able to freely leave their presence and report them to the authorities at any time.
From a legal perspective in this case, slavery is similar to being a pimp. It is a broader application of the term but it does apply. The dirtbags pimped him out to other men... making him a sex slave.
Well, nobody will need to pay for his life long upkeep in prison. Funny that these criminals always seem to have a guilt trip AFTER they get caught!
@ backtobasics
I don't know about a guilt trip, maybe more of being too much of a coward to face the fact that family and friends will find out he was a perv and a child molester.
Killed himself............THANKYOU!
Ewwwwww. Creepy Pedophiles. Good riddance deviant Bastard!
Ewwwwww. Creepy Pedophiles. Good riddance deviant Bastard!
Ewwwwww. Creepy Pedophiles. Good riddance deviant Bastard!
Thanks for saving tax dollars... one down, one to go.
@Brooke... people use to say that against gays... now it's socially acceptable... just wait another 50 years...
@BackEast 50 years will not have an effect on the criminality of pedophilia. There is no victim when two consenting adults enter into a sexual relationship, homosexual or heterosexual--thats why it has become socially acceptable. The age of consent has changed through the centuries, but there is always a victim when a pedophile molests a child. It will not be socially acceptable in 50 or 500 or 5000 years. Non-consensual sex will always be a crime in a civilized society.
Sorry about that, my computer had a brain fart. Or I did
Thinning out the herd.
I wonder why he commited suicide didn't he know they give guys like him in Vermount probation?
I am glad he killed himself but I am very angry that he got bail.
Instead of killing himself alone, he could very well have gone on a killing or raping spree. This system of ours is broken.
Not too many people go on crime sprees when they know they are under the law's looking glass. I'm curious to what happens with the bail.
Debra,
I wish you were correct but you aren't. Below is a link to the story about the drive by shooting in Vegas that killed several people. The man they have arrested as the suspect was out on bail after kidnapping, sexual assualt and coercion charges were brought against him.
There is no such thing the law's looking glass. Do you think police departments have the resources to follow around all the criminals to make sure they aren't committing crimes?
sick bastard ... one less piece of shyt
YAY! One dirt bag down; one to go. Do the taxpayers a favor and off yourself, perv.
im glad this white f.ag.g.o.t pervert blew his brains out . god damn predator .
White........how about just a pervert creep.
No need for race or homophobic comments. He was a pedophile and predator.
Remember the Roman church scandal. The term used to distract attention from homosexualism when men abuse sexually mature minors is ephebophile.
The molester will not hurt any child again. Case closed but I feel for the teen that he did this to. I do hope he gets help and does not go down the same path.
YAY CT's in the news again... we are the new FL!