Fear and paranoia motivates people more than logic and reason and the media just preys upon this fact.

Most of us legal responsible weapons owners know this.

The people who have never even shot a Red Ryder B-B Gun are the ones they prey on.

The gangbangers turn the guns in for cash to buy some crack. Then a nice home invasion and they have stolen your working guns for replacements. The also appreciate the ammo everyone is hoarding. I know the liberals are fools and patting themselves on the back...........

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If they got any of those, there would have been a bigger story about arrests made.

You are correct on the "assault" rifles name. However, you are incorrect on arrests made comment. During these buy backs, there is a no question asked rule. It doesn't matter if the weapons are legal or illegal. Stolen or legally bought or not. They don't ask for names or anything. As for the rocket launcher, they are illegal even if they don't have a round in them or not. Using your logic, an automatic weapon isn't illegal if it's not loaded.

ixlr8

They turn the guns in for cash and buy some crack

A lot of times you see some old lady bring those guns in. Their husbands had died and they don't feel comfortable with the guns in the house. These things are a safe way for them to get them out of the house. I'm sure someone like you would rather have them sell them at a yard sale right? You are the one who sounds like they are on crack.

weirdscience-90210

Fear and paranoia motivates people more than logic and reason and the media just preys upon this fact.

Fear and paranoia are the NRA leadership and conservative mantra and mind set. It's the basis of why so many pro-gun types think firearm regulation = firearm confiscation. Fortunately that mind set is held by a minority of Americans these days.

A desire for universal background checks for instance now poll at a low of 79% to 100% depending on region favoring it.

http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

flnobody, you probably right a few old ladys turn their dead husbands guns in. Go to one and see who is in line for the most part. I'll refrain from sending an insult back for writing my opinion........

Only honest people turn their guns in.

You know what I'm sick of??!! People who talk about the government taking away their freedoms, yet spend all of their time trying to limit the freedoms of their fellow citizens. These gun buy backs are not a new thing, and you don't see the people who live in areas that have these buy backs complaining, so why are you. People are turning in guns of their own free will. It's a personal, conscious decision on their part. The government isn't forcing anyone to relinquish their firearms. They aren't going door to door searching peoples homes. Their posted up in one spot for a few hours once or twice a year and saying 'if you don't want those guns anymore, turn them in to us and we'll destroy them and lessen the hoards of guns out here at least by a little bit. And we'll give you a few dollars to boot!'

You guys feel like you have the right to own any and every type of weapon known to human kind, other people have the right to want to rid themselves of the ones they have. Your rants are the reason some of us don't think guns should be available to anyone, because they end up in the hands of people like you who want to go to war against people exercising their freedom to get rid of their guns.

"finobody"

The no questions asked is bullsh!t.

If you bring in a fully auto weapon.

Questions WILL be asked.

There is paperwork to fill out, before you can get that little "check" or cash.

Don't be a fool.

Braincandy

The people turning in the weapons are turning in mostly junk.

And they are using the money they obtain to buy better weapons or drugs, or food, etc.

NO ONE who is responsible would think of having a "conscious" attack and giving up weapons.

This is only a ploy for the ignorant.

The people turning in the guns are either stupid or very smart.

And they are laughing at the government.

I heard someone turned in a Howitzer the other day!

As for the rocket launcher, they are illegal even if they don't have a round in them or not.

The government sold thousands of these to people that did gun shows and they in turn sold them all over the country. If they were illegal to posses the government would never have sold them. Any dangerous ordnance is disposed in a mater that renders it total unusable.

Extra value points if someone turns in a functional Stinger Missle.

bet ya it was an EMPTY rocket launcher, also know as WORTHLESS

Well Robert, I know if I had a rocket launcher, I would probably be hoarding it for those now "legal" drone strikes on US Citizens on US Soil. Or perhaps I would have hoarded it for the eventual collapse of our failing economy and the eventual anarchy that would soon follow. Perhaps, I would hoard such a thing so when the only survival you have is what you are able to grow, cultivate, and provide for yourself and being able to defend those things I would be able to keep my family fed. But most of all, I would probably just have such a thing because unlike those in some other @!$%#ball thirdworld country, like we are becoming, I don't trust the government to be anything more than the corrupt self-serving @!$%#s they have proven themselves to be. And my fate chief will not come as a result of relying on the honesty and goodwill of my fellow man.

Piglet.

The only thing "beneath the surface" is the REAL paranoia of the non-weapons owners.

Beneath the surface folk would NEVER turn in something they could readily re-load.

" ....the REAL paranoia of the non-weapons owners."

Wow! Congratulations for posting the most distorted, circular logic argument of the day. I hope you had to work really hard at coming up with that little jewel, ...because if it came easily to you, that should really scare you!

Another "buy back" which is taking guns from LEGAL owners who would rather have the cash now because of the Obama economy.

Or, maybe they need the cash pretty soon to pay for about 2 weeks of Health Care.

NOTICE: NO weapons were turned in for cash by Illegal Aliens (Immigrants), "gang bangers", or drug cartel members.

Congratulations to you too Robert.

You win the "Logic Avoidance Award for the Week".

The paranoia IS with the non-weapons owners.

And you are too blind to see it.

Thanks!

NOTICE: NO weapons were turned in for cash by Illegal Aliens (Immigrants), "gang bangers", or drug cartel members.

Link?

No need for a link there.

I didn't even post that.

But logic tells you these people are not that stupid.

Uncle Leroy turned in the gangbangers guns for a 40 oz and a nickle bag. The illegals who are not in a gang are too busy working to know or car about gun exchanges.....

I'm not turning in my rocket launcher!

The bad guys are not going to turn their weapons in.

More anti-gun media crap. Anyone could get these hollow tubes in most surplus stores after the Vietnam war.

They were nothing more than a collector item. No way could you get the "rocket" itself.

You media people are scraping the barrel for anti-gun news. Give it a rest.

OMG.... they paid money for an TUBE? The same as "so-called" assault weapons, a rocker launcher is WORTHLESS without the rocket......

Haha ok guys.

Lets get serious for a moment, this isn't a video game. Rocket launchers are one-shot disposable items, you can't reload them. Bazooka's and some RPG's can be reloaded depending on their make and model. It's important to note the difference cause an expended shell isn't illegal to have while a functional launcher is definitely illegal to own by unlicensed professionals.

Also they didn't receive that many "assault rifles", most likely a bunch of civilized rifles styled like a military assault rifle. The AR-15 is not the M-16/M-4. There is nothing wrong with buyback programs like this as long as their completely voluntary.

Jim O......................... Neither are the good guys.

Sgt dev, USMC, 1970-73. No way will this government or any other disarm the real Law Abiding Patriots in this country. No FRIGG'N way.

Law enforcement people know it is Unconstitutional and basically IMPOSSIBLE to do.

We made the same type of "Rocket Launcher" out of PVC to launch the deadly tennis ball, wonder how much they would give me for one of those deadly weapons?

Robert in Oregon please do some research. A used rocket launcher tube can't be reloaded and is no threat to anyone. People collect used military junk. It has nothing to do with gun rights and the second amendment. This article is just the media trying to get ignorant people upset. They obviously know it wasn't dangerous, but don't want to tell you the facts for some reason. Maybe that would ruin the article.

And the article fails to mention how many of the guns were illegal or how many actually worked. Anyone with a gun who wants to sell one can walk into a gun store and sell it. If people have illegal guns chances are they won't be turning them in. I think these programs are good though to get guns out of the hands of stupid people who might hurt themselves or others with dangerous weapons.

... please do some research.

Ah, there it is, the standard drone of the demagogue. Dismiss any comment with which you disagree with the ubiquitous reply "Do some research" (which of course means research on the fringes of logic, ...and then we too can learn your secret handshake and be whackadoodle demagogues, too!)

I know this will come as a surprise to you, but people who do not spend all their time reading pro-gun, conspiracy theorist and right-wing websites - and watching FoxNews, and listening to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh - are actually far better informed than those who do.

You folks live in a world of lock-step group-think. But the real world is an entirely different place than is that dark, malevolent world you prefer to believe exists; that world which justifies your imagined threats, paranoia and irrational fears. A world which validates you, rather than pointing out to you that you're just another whackadoodle.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but that's all you and others like you really are. Fearful, paranoid whackadoodles.

Robert in Sodom or Oregon, you are a pompous ignorant ass!

Fear and paranoia are the NRA leadership and conservative mantra and mind set.

Culheath, you insult people but make no sense. Most of the paranoia concerning guns is on the anti-gun side of the argument. Even if we include accidents, death by cop, self defensive legal homicides, and suicides, a firearm is just as likely to kill an American as the flu. If we only look at murders, you are almost 3 times more likely to die of the flu than from gun murder.

It is rationally, logically, a tiny threat to life. But the left's paranoia on the issue make it seem like it's some major threat we need to worry about. The fact is most of the risk are among drug dealers. 51% of all murders, including gun murders, are directly related to the Drug War. Meanwhile less than 1.7% of murders (and less than 3.5% of total homicides) are committed with rifles...of which "assault rifles" are a tiny subset.

This is political nonsense based in the ignorance and paranoia of the anti-gun crowd. If it was about saving lives from murder (and gun murder) you'd seek to end the Drug War instead of seeking to ban things that will AT MOST save 1.7% of murders. Ending the Drug War would save a huge percentage of murder victims.

Crime rates in Prohibition rose immediately 78%, 24% in just one year from 1920-1921 (the first year).

http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00492/Crime_Rate.htm

The murder rate was cut in nearly half (40% decline), from 10 per 100,000 to 6 per 100,000 when Prohibition ended. This was directly caused by the repeal of Prohibition in 1933.

http://www.cato.org/publications/policy-analysis/alcohol-prohibition-was-failure

While we have proliferated guns, high capacity magazines, "assault rifles", permits to carry, violent TV shows, video games, music, single parenthood, etc. to historic heights over the last 20 years, we have simultaneously had a 49% drop in the murder rate nationally and the violent crime rate nationally. There is no correlation with any of those things and murder and violent crime rates...so LOGICALLY there can be NO CAUSATION either.

The problem is your willful ignorance and complete paranoia. Your irrational fear of guns and HOW you might die is trumping the rational chance of it actually happening, which is all that is important. Many people irrationally fear the HOW of falling out the sky on a plane, and therefore choose to drive. They in most cases KNOW that rationally the plane is less likely to kill them than the car, but they ignore rational thought and drive anyways. This type of irrationality is the same as the irrational fear of guns. They in FACT save more lives than they take, just like planes do.

Here is a short list of facts the anti-gun people don't seem to want to know:

1. Violent crime – including violent crime using guns – has dropped massively over the past 20 years.

The violent crime rate - which includes murder, rape, and beatings - is half of what it was in the early 1990s. And the violent crime rate involving the use of weapons has also declined at a similar pace.

2. Mass shootings have not increased in recent years.

Despite terrifying events like Sandy Hook or last summer’s theater shooting in Aurora, Colorado, mass shootings are not becoming more frequent. “There is no pattern, there is no increase,” says criminologist James Allen Fox of Northeastern University, who studies the issue. Other data shows that mass killings peaked in 1929.

3. Schools are getting safer.

Across the board, schools are less dangerous than they used be. Over the past 20 years, the rate of theft per 1,000 students dropped from 101 to 18. For violent crime, the victimization rate per 1,000 students dropped from 53 to 14.

4. There Are More Guns in Circulation Than Ever Before.

Over the past 20 years, virtually every state in the country has liberalized gunownership rules and many states have expanded concealed carry laws that allow more people to carry weapons in more places. There around 300 million guns in the United States and at least one gun in about 45 percent of all households. Yet the rate of gun-related crime continues to drop.

5. “Assault Weapons Bans” Are Generally Ineffective.

While many people are calling for reinstating the federal ban on assault weapons – an arbitrary category of guns that has no clear definition – research shows it would have no effect on crime and violence. “Should it be renewed,” concludes a definitive study, “the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement.”

http://reason.com/reasontv/2013/01/10/reasons-5-facts-on-guns-and-gun-violence

And here is a good reason to stop cherry-picking stats to make your points...because when you look at ALL the stats in Europe you find it's a crappy example of the "successes" of gun control:

A study done by the Harvard Jounal of Law and Public Policy reports some interesting statistics.

The study, which appeared in Volume 30, Number 2 of the Harvard Journal of Law & Public Policy (pp. 649-694), set out to answer the question in its title: "Would Banning Firearms Reduce Murder and Suicide? A Review of International and Some Domestic Evidence." Contrary to conventional wisdom, and the sniffs of our more sophisticated and generally anti-gun counterparts across the pond, the answer is "no." And not just no, as in there is no correlation between gun ownership and violent crime, but an emphatic no, showing a negative correlation: as gun ownership increases, murder and suicide decreases.

The findings of two criminologists - Prof. Don Kates and Prof. Gary Mauser - in their exhaustive study of American and European gun laws and violence rates, are telling:

Nations with stringent anti-gun laws generally have substantially higher murder rates than those that do not. The study found that the nine European nations with the lowest rates of gun ownership (5,000 or fewer guns per 100,000 population) have a combined murder rate three times higher than that of the nine nations with the highest rates of gun ownership (at least 15,000 guns per 100,000 population).

For example, Norway has the highest rate of gun ownership in Western Europe, yet possesses the lowest murder rate. In contrast, Holland's murder rate is nearly the worst, despite having the lowest gun ownership rate in Western Europe. Sweden and Denmark are two more examples of nations with high murder rates but few guns. As the study's authors write in the report:

If the mantra "more guns equal more death and fewer guns equal less death" were true, broad cross-national comparisons should show that nations with higher gun ownership per capita consistently have more death. Nations with higher gun ownership rates, however, do not have higher murder or suicide rates than those with lower gun ownership. Indeed many high gun ownership nations have much lower murder rates. (p. 661)

http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf

Studies done in the USA county by county show similar negative correlations. Also, white people have more guns per capita than non-whites, same for rural vs urban, and richer vs poorer...in all three cases the group with highest gun ownership rates had the lower violent crime and murder rates. That's not because "more guns equal less crime", but it does prove "less guns equals less crime" is totally untrue. In nearly every case, both in Europe and America (and Central and South America as well, and also Asia and Australia), where the Drug War is more aggressive toward the citizenry the violent crime rates and murder rates are higher (and usually suicide rates too).

One last thing: saying "there are more gun crimes or gun murders where there are more guns" is such an illogical thing to use as evidence against guns. No crap, where you have more hammers more people will be using hammers in crimes. The real question is "what is the total murder rate and violent crime rate?" Parsing out guns tells you nothing. In most cases, there are lower gun crime and gun murder rates where there are less guns, BUT the total murder rate and violent crime rate is higher. Rational people would rather have a higher risk of being murdered by a gun than a higher overall chance of being murdered where there are no guns. The goal is to not be murdered, not to just avoid a gun murder!

And besides, blunt objects like hammers, clubs, pipes, and ball bats are used to murder Americans every year than rifles (of which a tiny subset are "assault" rifles).

Clues that a study is full of crap even if the stats are accurate:

1. The word "homicide" is used instead of the word "murder". This is done because "homicide" can include legal self defenses, accidents, death by cop, and sometimes even suicides.

2. The study cherry-picks particular cases (like nations) that appear to fit its case, ignoring that the total trend is adverse to their case. This is done when they say "well in England vs USA, England has a tiny amount of gun crime and murder", totally ignoring England is #1 in TOTAL violent crime rate in the UK, and #$ in total murders. There are nations in Europe with a lot more guns and a lot less violent crime and murder.

3. Using totals and not percentages or rates. Like "England has less than 30 gun murders a year, but the USA has over 8,000" (they say 11,000, but that includes accidents and self defenses). Those raw numbers are not percentages or rates. If they were they would be divided by the two different populations of both countries.

4. The study isn't done by criminologists, or is and includes info from other nations passed off cleverly as a way to prove Americans have the issue.

5. There are many more, but you get the point: make sure to THINK CRITICALLY and question everything so you can arrive at logical and rational conclusions. The anti-gun crowd too often seeks out stats and studies that fit their preconceived notions instead of looking into things with an open mind and then coming to conclusions based on the evidence.

Sorry Culheath, but as usual when it comes to politics, you're wrong because you oversimplify the issue and refuse to do the hard work of research to see whether it's possible you're wrong. I've done the research, and almost every anti-gun study has flawed methodology, or are outright lies.

Some years back, there was a professor whose advocacy of gun control led him to produce a "study" that became so discredited that he resigned from his university. This column predicted at the time that this discredited study would continue to be cited by gun control advocates. But I had no idea that this would happen the very next week in the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.

- from Thomas Sowell's "Invincible Ignorance"

Welcome to reality, Culheath...the only question is whether you'll accept it, or ignore it so you can continue to live in your statist delusions.

Seems to be the only ones that we need to protect ourselves from are people like viewer ready. Paranoid, dillusional freaks that think they know everything but don't know squat! I have forgotten more than he will ever know.

From the "LA Weekly," quoting the LAPD official who ran the buy-back program:

"He says that police believe the "shoulder-fired" weapons are antiquated, decades-old, launchers from wars past often picked up by collectors or passed down to family members by veterans. They propel rocket grenades, but the official called them "non-working" because they did not have the "projectiles" with them."

You'll never read the full details on NBCLite because it doesn't support thier agenda. A little bit of research goes a long way.

Hoplophobes dislike the idea of research - it doesn't support their agenda either.

For people like Robert in Oregon and others that seem to think owning firearms comes as a "paranoid" and delusional belief things DON'T HAPPEN, let me remind you of a few things that people believed would never happen.

It was a common belief a government would never turn its military on its own citizens - we have seen MANY MANY examples of this fallacy in belief recently.

It was a common belief that civilized countries would NEVER EVER collapse and anarchy would rule the day - funny though how places like Bosnia, Croatia, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and others escape the lessons of history.

It was a common belief that widespread death and destruction would never occur within the borders of the United States, - seems to me the Oklahoma City Bombing and 9/11 kinda shoot the hell out of that belief.

It was a common belief that a civilized country would never, ever, divide itself over money, nor would bands of warlords ever be able to terrorize and seize property from citizens of a country - funny how we forget the rise of the Taliban, forget our own Civil War, forget Korea, Viet Nam, and places like those. It is equally funny that the belief that a civilized people would never resort to such things in the face of economic collapse. But the joke is on you and people like you, who apparently never read a newspaper, or attend a court session where thieves, druggies, embezzlers are on trial. You see, crime my dear man is a result of someone wanting something you have, and having the will and the desire to take it from you. The difference is, those that are armed just might have something to say about it, while those that are pacifists will have to hope and prey they aren't killed in the process. They will have to rely on a judge and jury, IF it ever gets to trial, as we know via the US Dept of Justice Statistics that only 1% of the crimes committed in this country EVER go to trial. The rest are dealt with via plea bargains. And of course, the victims of those crimes are NEVER compensated, made whole, or otherwise given the protections under the law thier assailants are.

It was once widely believed that people would never have to fear being in thier own home. Funny thing is, rapists, burglars, and yes even the derranged put that myth squarely to rest, as MOST of the crimes committed against the "law abiding citizen" are committed against them in thier safe and secure homes.

It was once a widely held belief that the United States Government would never target thier own citizens for what amounts to assassination. Funny though how we now have talk of the legality of drones being used in our country by our government, and I am sure the recent drone strike killing the American Al-Quada guy never really happened, but was more of hype I suppose.

It is equally widely believed according to liberals that people are inherently good. If that were the case, why is it, with our failed judicial system, that the average time that passes for a person who KILLED an unarmed person before they are hopefully executed exceeds 14 years. And isn't it surprising that those that kill unarmed persons are afforded more rights, more protections, more consideration than thier unarmed victims. Suprisingly, 85% of those appeals NEVER QUESTION GUILT Verdicts, but rather involve "procedure" in hopes that the Capital Punishment sentence is dropped to a Life without Parole. It is funny, to think that libtards actually believe the police can be everywhere, at anytime, and prevent such atrosities from occurring, especially when thier messiah of hope and change is furlouging FBI Agents, CIA Agents, Analysts, and cutting the budget of the very same military that is supposed to be there defending us. But hey, I guess I am just paranoid. But the reality of the situation is, I KNOW and SEE the world we live in. I just choose to acknowledge the facts of modern day life, and not spend my waking hours walking in a haze of la la land.

ProIndividual,

That was a great post...but you and I disagree on many things.

Your research is as cherry picked as any you think I might have done. Of course, according to your assessment, you assume I have not done any.

Let's get a few things straight.

1) I grew up around guns, learned to shoot them, hunt and have no problem with about gun ownership per se. 2) I do not fear guns nor am I paranoid about being killed or wounded by them. 3) I do not own a gun by choice because I have no need for one in my environment, though I live in a medium level crime area in central Florida in which guns abound.

I see guns as their own propaganda and that propaganda speaks to convenient violence.

Guns are tools whose chief purpose is leveraged lethality. In that, they are simply a convenience whether used defensively or aggressively.

A bow and arrow is also a leveraging tool used aggressively or defensively, but the difference is that neither accidental death nor suicides are a likely result of its use. There is also the aspect that a bow and arrow requires a greater physical agility and skill level to be effective as a weapon. Then there is the concealment differential between guns and bow and arrow.

The propaganda value of a bow and arrow is quite different in those regards.

Anyway, as I said that was a great post and I'll try to get back to you about this more thoroughly later today, but I have to leave for work soon.

viewer

There is paperwork to fill out, before you can get that little "check" or cash.

Don't be a fool.

There is no paper work for the ones who turn in these weapons. The only fool here is you, for making uninformed comments based on your bull@!$%#!

So is a gun without bullets. Of course if you had the connection to get a rocket launcher, I'm sure something to load in it wouldn't be much of an issue either.

@Brain--- I went to Cabelas and other places and they were all out. Not gonna happen. You used to be able to get the launcher, but no shells.

Ordnance is not available for an RPG without a FEDERAL ID..... the Feds have bunches of them......

BrainCandy........ Did you OD on sugar again???????? That "connection" you're talking about...... it doesn't exist. It never did.

You are making stuff up like most Anti-Gun freaks do. I served in 1970-73, USMC, Sgt E-5. I'm calling you on this one fella. You Lie.

Run sheep! They gots ROCKET LAUNCHERS give up all your rights before it's too late!

BrianCandy your comparison doesn't work. A gun without bullets can be reloaded and fired, while a used rocket launcher can't be reloaded and fired again.

All rocket launchers are not one shot devices.

Ordnance is not available for an RPG without a FEDERAL ID..... the Feds have bunches of them......

Yet you'll talk about how that won't make a difference to the 'criminals' in your next argument on guns in America. You people say anything to remain in opposition the whoever you consider to be the other side, even if you have to contradict your last talking point to do it. You all remind me of the montages on The Daily Show where they show how so many of the BS politicians do a 180 on their talking points politics. The only thing that makes it less humorous is that when that loon in office is gone he'll probably be replaced by somebody claiming to be even loonier. I mean even more 'conservative'.

If the rocket launcher is any thing like the one's used since the 1960's by the US military, it is a disposable tube. Junk value of about 5 bucks as scrap. They can't be reloaded. Most likely some thing sold as a souvenir to some weekend warrior wanna be. The assault weapons turned in are also most likely nothing but semi auto rifles. Military assault weapons are expensive and need a license to get. Or even more expensive on the black market.

These buy back programs have been around for at least 20 years. They tend to get junk that some one knows they can't sell to any one else. Or stolen guns some one needs to dump before they get caught with them. Very few are ever of any value. Any one that has guns around they feel they need to dispose of would take them to a dealer or at least a pawn shop and get some thing close to market value for them.

Braincandy,

Maybe you should try serving your country instead of serving yourself. Then maybe you would learn a little something about guns and rocket launchers. You have the right to not own a gun if you choose and we have the right to own one if we choose. We won't tell you how to choose.

So by your argument, you would prefer that stolen handgun remain in the hands of the criminal, rather than being turned in and destroyed? Would you rather have stolen guns remain in the hands of criminals than see any effort at all to reduce the number of guns?

Robert, We prefer to kill the criminal when ever legal and prudent to do so.

Robert in Oregon,

We want the number of guns and the number of people who carry them to increase.

In a world where everyone is armed no one can commit a violent crime without having to risk his own life.

More guns=less crime as you shall soon see in Chicago.

Oregon is one of the most pro gun states... why not move to LA... Robert?

Of course! It's always all about killing, isn't it?

Robert, You are just one more CLUELESS Anti-Gun freak.

Check your ignorance quotient fella. Stolen guns (serial number present) are returned to the lawful owner. I don't know of a state where that DOES NOT happen. It's their property for cripes sake.

Why are Anti-Gun people so ignorant so much of the time? ANSWER: Most of them have never even fired or held a rifle or pistol in their hands. No real training at all. Just plain IGNORANT. They are talking out the side of their @zz.

bobbygordon6909

Robert in Oregon, We want the number of guns and the number of people who carry them to increase.

Of course you do. Guns are the answer to everything for the paranoid and hopelessly fearful.

Oregon is one of the most pro gun states... why not move to LA... Robert?

Clearly you are as clueless about Oregon, as you are about living a normal life without irrational, paranoid fears. Sad for you.

Oregon Robert, who is really living in fear? You don't have a clue. All you can do is blow smoke.

Robert, Robert, run... run... runn... "The sky is falling .... The sky is falling."

Make all your comments in BOLD LETTERS so you can sound the alarm............

"The sky is falling, The sky is falling."

You are a pathetic academic..... a real PHD of nothing.

Gun nuts have this delusion they are Charles Bronson or something. In a real gun fight most would probably piss themselves and drop their weapon. In fact homes with guns are more likely to experience an accidental shooting of a family member or friend than blasting away an intruder. So in fact owning a gun puts you family in more danger than any bad guy.

Gun are the answer to violent threats.

Being unarmed and faced with a gun pointed at you is a choice you can make for yourself, it is immoral, stupid and, arguably, insane, but to make that choice for someone else is unethical and you are forcing them to die needlessly because defending one's one and only life is a simple choice to make.

What's it like knowing that anyone can just walk into your house and kill you anytime they please and there is nothing you can do to stop them?

Only an insane person would ever choose not to provide for his own defense.

Culheath.

I have an investment portfolio for you.

Invest in four things.

Heavy steel doors.

Bullet proof glass.

Deadbolts.

And a brain.

If you believe guns are going away, you really need the brain suggestion.

You (who are supposed to be an elder) are the whiner here.

If you have not figured this out in all of your supposed years on earth, you never will.

Please tell us, what do YOU think should be done about the weapons issue?

I cannot wait to hear.

(I like italics, it looks better to a poet like myself)

You do what you want, I will do what I like.

So, you would support Hitler.

You are seriously outnumbered here Cullpup.

That is what Hitler did.

I live in the USA.

Where do you want to live?

You have a very serious case of liberalism and socialism disease.

One can only hope you can be cured.

Do want to take my 65 year old Remington model 81 away from me? How about my 70 year old M1 Carbine? Maybe you will want my 45 year old Winchester model 190? They are all semi auto rifles I use for hunting or plinking. I know you want my 35 year old AR15.

You would support going door to door....

How nice of you !

You would support, but you would not do it yourself. Here is a deal for you. I will take you to south Baltimore and you go door to door.

I will wait in the car, and you will never come back.

As for the second amendment, it is there for a reason and it's going to stay right where it is.

Never fear ! Maryland has more gun control laws than you can shake a stick at. We already have most of what you want. So, come on over to "Bee-more". You would be safe here, except that your gun contol ideas don't work !!

Never did and never will....

Fact, there is no "gun show loophole" If you purchase a weapon from a license dealer, you will go through a background check. Some states allow for private party sales of rifles and shotguns without having to go through a transfers, but it is federal law that all handgun purchases have to be transferred, and therefore go through a background check. It is also illegal, even for a private party sale to knowingly sell a gun to someone who you know would probably not pass a background check. The fact that some of these private party sales happen at gun shows doesnt make them a "gun show loophole" they could happen anywhere.

It is already very illegal for any private citizen to own a rocket launcher, grenade launcher, rpg ,etc. This is listed as a destructive device. What the story probably doesn't tell you is that this was likely a de-weaponized collectible. A novelty.

Most weapons turned into buyback programs are non functioning. Some are inherited weapons by people that don't want a gun, and some are turn ins of illegal guns.

I wont get into the liberal conservative tired rhetoric, but I am tired of poor and incomplete reporting by major news outlets hoping to provoke these types of responses.

Culheath,

The Bill of Rights forbids "door to door", and universal background checks, and registration.

The only constitutional law with respect to arms is the second amendment... all other "gun laws" infringe the right to keep and bear arms.

These freedoms come with responsibility and we are paying a price for them every day but, the price is very small compared to what it costs to live without them and to gain them back if they are lost.

If there are no guns what is there to stop the use of military force in America? That has always been the reason for the right to bear arms, self defense is the icing on the cake.

Only a fool, an idiot or an insane person fails to provide defense for his one and only life...

Which are you?

Here's the math...................

150,000,000 X $350 (ball-park average for used guns) = $52,500,000,000

52 BILLION dollars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wouldn't sell a $350 shotgun for anything less than $350.

Culheath............ You have put yourself squarely in the midst of GREAT AMERICAN TRAITORS.

Swimming pools kill far more children per year than guns do. Where's your manifesto concerning pools?

So chew on that fact TRAITOR.

Viewer ready: You are seriously outnumbered here Cullpup.

Culheath: So you say....so you would hope...the polls say otherwise.

Well you seem to be losing the poll of public opinion on this liberal news site by about 4 to one.

Likely because the rwnj's that used to haunt Fox boards have nowhere to go now but sites like this.

The polls I was referring to were the national ones which demonstrate just how much of minority the NRA and extreme 2nd amendment types are.

http://www.pollingreport.com/guns.htm

The poll I was referring to is in the lower right hand corner of yours and viewer readys posts.

oh you mean the one that shows no votes for you? Like I care.

And as I said, but you seemed to ignore :

"Likely because the rwnj's that used to haunt Fox boards have nowhere to go now but sites like this."

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Culheath............ You have put yourself squarely in the midst of GREAT AMERICAN TRAITORS.

Swimming pools kill far more children per year than guns do. Where's your manifesto concerning pools?

So chew on that fact TRAITOR.

Yawn.

oh you mean the one that shows no votes for you? Like I care.

The issue was you claimed that polls backed your position on gun control while having your opinion voted down four to one in your debate with Viewer Ready, not a popularity contest between you and me.

Here's a poll for you.

Out of 16 people who cared enough to comment 81.25% think you need a brain.

12.5% think you're an idiot or a fool.

18.75% think you are a traitor.

"I find that he is happiest of whom the world says least, good or bad." Thomas Jefferson

You should read some of his other stuff.

At the risk of repeating myself, yawn.

Oh ...speaking of percentages...you realize that gun ownership in the US is now down to 35% from 50% in the '70's right...meaning of course that 65% of Americans think gun ownership is not a good idea. So who represents this relatively recent flurry of gun sales? A paranoid minority who can't see the difference between regulating guns and confiscating them.

I guess Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats must have not have got the news on those polls. They killed the rifle and magazine ban.

Cute, but you have to have the rocket to launch it from the launcher.

Try to get one of those.

Depending on the type of rocket launcher it is a USE ONCE and throw away thing. It can not be reused.

Wow! You even got 4 likes too. Now, you and your friends can take a break from the news and maybe wiki 'The art of sarcasm'. My post seemed to fly right over your head.

Prpbably purchased from a surplus store. These empty tubes used to be sold as collectors' items for next to nothing. You can still purchase "grenades." They have the explosive and the detonator removed - make great paperwights and door-stops.

They have, although sometimes wary. I know at the buy backs around me, private buyers set up tables in the parking lot, and pick up what they can. They are, however, a bit wary of some of the firearms, due to the fact they're likely linked to crimes. Most of the purchases are made from "little old lady" types.

A friend of mine purchased a pair of Colt Pythons in near perfect condition in a case from a widow, she let them go for $200 cash.

That has been done. I don't remember the exact details of area or date, but there were some people buying across the street from a police buy back. They told people to get an offer from police and come to them for a better offer. Also, you don't have to have a business or FFL to buy. You only need it if you are reselling for a profit.

These people voted for Obama, need I say more.

I've got a Jennings .22 that I payed $49 for twenty-five years ago. I don't use it and wouldn't get $100 for it at the gun shop I'll sell that to the cops. I have a stack of black powder phladephia derringer kits that I got for $10 a piece. I could screw them together and let the cops have them unfinished for a $900 profit. Everything else I will sell back to rhe gun shop for more than I paid.

Better to be funny than a paranoid

And it makes me question the information and truthfulness of any other articles I read here. They like to leave out simple facts to make their news more dramatic. It is sad.