Philadelphia sisters struck in separate hit-and-runs

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Sarah Givens has always dreamed of performing her first ice skating solo. The 10-year-old girl pushed herself for three years in order to reach her goal.

But that dream was abruptly put on hold on Thursday in Philadelphia's Fishtown neighborhood.  Sarah was walking on the 2400 block of Memphis Street when investigators say she was struck by a white SUV that fled the scene.

In a devastating coincidence, Sarah's 14-year-old sister, Kylee, was struck by a vehicle just two days after Sarah's accident. Police say that vehicle also fled the scene.

Sarah suffered a broken leg and a facial injury in her incident.

"What would you say to the person who hit you and kept going?" asked NBC10's Daralene Jones.

"I would tell them that I'm really mad at them," Sarah said.

Sarah is dealing with her own injuries, but she's also worried about her sister, who is hospitalized in critical condition with a ruptured spleen and broken ribs.

Police say Kylee was walking on Cheltenham and Torresdale Avenue on Saturday around 8:30 p.m. when she was struck by a white 4-door vehicle with tint driven by a man. Investigators say the striking vehicle stopped a half a block away from the scene and then fled before police arrived.

"This guy got out of the car, looked at her, then got back in his car and left," said Jim Givens, the father of both girls. "I don't know which one is worse."

While police are still reviewing surveillance video that may help them find the driver who struck Kylee, law enforcement sources say detectives have leads that may point them to the driver of a white GMC SUV with white rims who they believe struck Sarah.

"He owes my daughter an apology," said Jim. "I need to see some type of remorse and then he needs to suffer the consequences of whatever follows."

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wtf.

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Reply#1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:03 PM EDT

"Sarah Givens has always dreamed of performing her first ice skating solo." Where was Tonya Harding? Was she trying to take out the competition? All kidding aside I hope her and her sister get well soon.

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#1.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:14 PM EDT

Does it seem like there are more hit and runs today than in the past? Is that because the penalties are much higher today for the driver or because of no insurance because it costs so much? Or just a lack of not caring.

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#1.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:59 PM EDT

Unfortunately I believe it is because the penalties today are a joke. People run from police more than ever as well today because they know that police have larger fish to fry and if they chase and someone gets hurt, they can get sued. Too many people that feel that laws don't apply to them.

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#1.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:20 PM EDT

I, too, am the parent of a child that was involved as a pedestrian in a hit-and-run accident on February 18, 2008. My daughter was 20 at the time and had the right of way, was in the crosswalk - doing what she was supposed to do and was hit by a car, and left laying in the street unconscious. The driver took off and was never found, nothing was done. My daughter suffered a brain injury, but thankfully has no longstanding or noticeable physical repercussions from the accident - emotionally it was very difficult for her and she is just now getting beyond it. She spent 5 days in the hospital and 51 days at home recovering.

I too, would have liked to have known that the driver was remorseful, and to have had some justice for what happened, but sometimes that just isn't the case. My daughter is just now coming to the point of letting go and forgiving the driver that hit her - initially she was very angry at the driver for what happened. The one blessing is that KCET just contacted us recently and did a story on her accident - finally giving it some exposure - the only exposure since the accident - other than a couple of online news articles about it. The driver never turned theirself in, nor did the police do anything noticeable about the accident which was extremely frustrating. We showed up for a news press conference about the accident, but the news media didn't - apparently they pick and choose when they want to come out and do that.

The intersection she was hit in was one of the most dangerous and deadliest (unbeknownst to us at the time it happened) in Los Angeles. I am very thankful that she will finally have a chance at the possibility of something being done about the intersection, so that this won't happen to others in the future. And I realize and I am so grateful that I have her here with me still, as many fatalities have occurred at that intersection.

I send my sympathy and prayers to both your daughters, for their quick and complete recovery, and I hope that the drivers would turn themselves in, but the chances are pretty remote and quite unlikely.

God bless you and your family. <><

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#1.4 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:56 PM EDT

I am glad your daughter can live to tell about the accident. Hope they catch the nut job that did this to her - which could at least give you and your family some closure.

More than likely it was a kid who stole a car. If it wasn't at night - usually a drunk driver may not stop to avoid getting caught.

Hit and Run drivers make a momentary decision to run and that's it ... there is no turning back - hopefully they will have a lifetime of looking over their shoulder for something that was basically devastating for everyone around them involved with the accident.

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#1.5 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:13 PM EDT

How awful for that family. I hope the one who is still in the hospital recovers quickly. I also hope that the police find the drivers of both cars and they are convicted and sentenced to the fullest extent of the law.

Square Dude, I think the reason we hear of more hit and runs is because we have much more access to media than in the past, there are more cars on the road, and, unfortunately, because there are more people in the world who feel it's acceptable to avoid standing up and taking responsibility for their actions. When we were children we were taught to take responsibility when we did something wrong. Unfortunately, our generation did not teach their children that. I taught my son but most of his friends will either blame something or someone else when they do something wrong (whether at work or in school)

    #1.6 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:41 PM EDT

    I think it is more likely just a fact that we are more aware of them, than there actually being more of them. An example would be that if the media shows us a lot of videos, images, etc of blue cars, you can falsely believe there to be an increase in blue cars. When in actuality, there might be fewer. Just my thoughts, I don't actually know this is the case.

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    #1.7 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:06 PM EDT

    White rims in Philly?

    I'd start looking at all the CEO's in the area. Clearly this was white-on-white crime.

      #1.8 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:28 PM EDT
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      What a coincidence.

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      Reply#2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:08 PM EDT

      Truly an improbably coincidence.

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      #2.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:15 PM EDT
      Comment author avatardetroitergirlExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

      I agree, why are these young girls unsupervised, my 11 year old goes no where without supervision.

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      #2.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:16 PM EDT

      Because some parents aren't helicopters...I walked home from school by myself and to the park and back by myself all the time from the time I was 7. I also walked the dog all over the neighborhood. I rode my bike all over town from the same age. By the time I was 14, I was using public transportation to get everywhere - and that included school. If it were a 4 or 5 year old wandering by themselves, that'd be an issue but 10 and 14?

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      #2.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:38 PM EDT

      No no no, rjh, you don't get it--if you aren't literally holding onto your kids 24/7/365, you're a bad parent, and detroitergirl, Kimbo, and SDCAL will make sure to remind you of the fact...

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      #2.4 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:39 PM EDT

      Detroit must be a different country. I grew up in the Bronx and walked to school by myself since 1st grade like all other kids in my school. I started taking the subway at 7th grade when I got accepted to a magnet school in Manhattan. My parent raised 7 kids in the Bronx and we turned out just fine; no one got involved with drugs or the gangs or any other things that the Bronx is famous for. I weighed 60 pounds in 7th grade, 85 pounds when I graduated from high school.

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      #2.5 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:08 PM EDT

      @detroitergirl - The article did not say whether they were supervised or not. You are asuming...

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      #2.6 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:47 PM EDT

      RIGHT. Always blame the parents. Good grief. A 15 year old out with a friend at 8:30. OH, the horrors of it. What is this world coming to?

      KIMBO........GET A LIFE.........DONT BE A PRISON WARDEN.

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      #2.7 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 9:57 PM EDT

      I grew up in Chicago. I walked to school by myself, took the El downtown by myself, and played in nearby parks without adult supervision. I was never harmed by strangers, but my parents were another story. :(

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      #2.8 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:15 PM EDT

      Watching
      I'm sorry. I just sent you hugs. I hope you got them.

        #2.9 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:40 PM EDT
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        Comment author avatarKimbo47Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

        While I feel for these girls, I wonder how much the parents lack of supervision plays into this.

        A 14 year-old girl walking alone at 8:30 pm at night on a busy street?

        A 10 year-old girl walking alone?

        And both apparently walking IN THE STREET if I understand this article correctly.

        Something stinks at home here.

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        #3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:16 PM EDT

        The younger girl was simply crossing the street when she says the vehicle came "zooming" around the corner. It had tinted windows and "fancy wheels." (Not "walking in the street.")

        The older girl, reported as being 15 on another news site, was walking with her friend. They were crossing the street at an intersection (not "walking in the street") when the vehicle came speeding toward them. The friend tried to pull her back but was unsuccessful. The vehicle was described as having tinted windows, fancy rims and a tinted license plate.

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        #3.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:48 PM EDT

        Absolutely can't wait to blame accidents on parents, I see. And of course you're absolutely perfect, Kimbo, as that halo on your head would attest--oh wait...

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        #3.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:54 PM EDT

        Kimbo, are you freaking insane?? The first thing you think is these poor girls have sh@##ty parents? What the heck is wrong with you? Do you even have kids? Do they live in a bubble? These kids were doing what all normal kids do all day every day, why are you going after the parents?

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        #3.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:17 PM EDT

        Give Kimbo a break. The "47" in her avatar might possibly be her I.Q.

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        #3.4 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:23 PM EDT

        If you hold your kid's hand until they're 18...you've got issues and one seriously messed-up kid on your hands.

        I started walking home from school by myself when I was 7. I wasn't supposed to - my dad was supposed to pick me up from the bus stop half a mile from home my first day. But he was late. I waited 10 minutes and then just started walking - I knew the way and made it home just fine. He was walking out the door when I got there - got held up by a phone call. After that, I just did it every day.

        I also got my first bike when I was 7 and rode it all around town. We got a dog when I was 8 and I walked him everywhere too. I started using the bus at 14 to get to school, as well as everywhere else.

        Not much unusual about children of that age going places by themselves. And no, my parents were not abusive or inattentive or anything other than perfectly normal and loving and with enough common sense in their heads to know that I knew how to take care of myself. I suspect the parents of these girls are much the same.

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        #3.5 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:43 PM EDT

        Looks like police people after hours, it is very hard to obey any rules for them after "work"!

          #3.6 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:54 PM EDT

          Back in the fifties in Flint Mi. I always walked to school,alone,from the age of five. It was only two blocks away. Transfered to another school in the fifth grade and walked five and a half miles one way. Back then in the winter we used to carry our shoes on our shoulders in the winter to keep them dry and wrapped barbed wire around our feet for traction. Things have gotten too easy for kids......neener neener neener!!!!

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          #3.7 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:00 PM EDT

          Hey, Bondy--don't forget, it was uphill both ways... :-)

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          #3.8 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:15 PM EDT

          Bondy, did you have to walk 5.5 miles up the hills both ways:-) My mother walked me to kindergarten on the first day, then told my sister to walk with me for the rest of the year. I started walking to school by myself at 1st grade because my sister would leave way early; she is kindda OCD where I prefer to sleep 'til the last minute.

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          #3.9 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:15 PM EDT

          Well, as usual, the zealots out here pounced on someone's post because of course we can't take responsibility for our own shortcomings, it just HAS to be someone else's fault. That's the new American way after all. Its no wonder today's kids are disrespectful, rude and have no manners--parents are not raising them right - letting the mall, their friends, the streets and everyone but them do their job.

          I too walked to school when I was younger, walked to church, rode my bike miles away from home, etc., etc. But that was in the 60s, 70s and 80s when it was relatively SAFE to do that.

          I don't know what world the rest of you are living in, but it's NOT SAFE ANYMORE. Do you watch the news, don't you read the internet? It's not safe anymore - let me repeat - it's not safe anymore.

          My children are now adults, 30 and 26 and doing fine - thanks for assuming that I breast fed them until they were in their 20s.

          This occured in Philadelphia in the area know as Fishtown--go do some research, a lot of poverty and mostly working class = kids running the streets, parents paying no attention and high crime rates. The area is beginning to revitalize, but its "got issues" as they say.

          I would NEVER (in today's world) let my 14, 15 year old daughter be out on the streets at dark with just a friend - that is asking, no inviting trouble.

          I would also not let my 12 year old daughter roam the streets either. Neither was with an adult, neither in their own yard or close to home and one after dark.

          No, I'm not overprotective, I'm prudent, there's a big difference. My kids grew up to be adults, they weren't molested, kidnapped or murdered so I've done my job in making sure they were protected and not out where they shouldn't be without adult supervision.

          And YES - it's the parents fault. It's their responsibility to protect their children until they reach the age of majority - which is neither 12, 14 or 15 in this country. There is absolutely NO REASON that a 15 year-old child should be out on the streets after dark with an adult, unless they are at an event with adult supervision - PERIOD.

          Let's hope you "liberal" parents don't end up with one of your kids on a milk carton--several have and wished they had made better choices.

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          #3.10 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:25 PM EDT

          Listen here buttercup i been walking to school since the age of 7 and am i missing no am i hit no so do everyone a favor and bring up your I.Q. level because obviously you believe you are the ONLY perfect parent out there well Karma is a B__c. thats all i'm saying.

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          #3.11 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:30 PM EDT

          Assuming they are caught, I hope the parents get a few minutes alone with them prior to sentencing. I would also like to see a couple of life sentences given, but in today's courts more likely they will get probation.

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          #3.12 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:35 PM EDT

          No, I'm not overprotective, I'm prudent, there's a big difference. My kids grew up to be adults, they weren't molested, kidnapped or murdered so I've done my job in making sure they were protected and not out where they shouldn't be without adult supervision.

          Neither were mine, sweetums, and unless you were literally holding their hands literally every single time they ever crossed a street until the age of majority, you were just as negligent as these parents--just a hell of a lot luckier so you can lord it over them in your sick arrogance...

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          #3.13 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:36 PM EDT

          And how old are you?

          I also walked to school when I was 7 - but that was IN THE 60s.

          I did not say I was perfect. What I said was, my 15 year old daughter would not be out on the streets at night in Fishtown, PA. Hell, not even where I live and it is considered a relatively safe area.

          That's not my IQ level but based on your post I would venture to say it's closer to YOUR IQ level.

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          #3.14 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:37 PM EDT

          Like I said, prudence...and I'm not ashamed of it.

          A 15-year old girl out at 8:30 PM at night in Fishtown, PA.

          I'll say it again - unacceptable and bad parenting...you don't have to agree with me, my opinion is just that - MY OPINION.

          And my children made it to well-adjusted, grown adults who do not live on welfare, can actually construct a claritive English sentence orally and verbally, have no children out of wedlock, and are not drug addicts or alcoholics.

          So it appears that my way works...meanwhile a lot of those "liberal" parents unfortunately can't say the same thing.

          Ummmmm.....

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          #3.15 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:42 PM EDT

          i can assure yuo if i take the I.Q. test i'll pass it

          im going on 24 years old and i lived in New York

          not a great place t live in the part i was at, a lot of kids kidnapped but i took

          karate lessons and never had one problem.

          You act like your Miss Perfect well guess what every parent makes a mistake and this isnt a mistake on the parent.

          ps liking your own statues doesn't proove your I.Q. is high just saying

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          #3.16 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:45 PM EDT

          Hi Rose, the world is full of them girl... Trolls

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          #3.17 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:56 PM EDT

          You go Kimbo47. Agree with your comments 100%. My kids don't go anywhere by themselves until they turn 18. Might be over protective to some people but mine are still alive and well. Too many damn sickos in this world and I don't trust anyone. This is not the time when I was young in the 60's.

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          #3.18 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:58 PM EDT

          I agree Carol

            #3.19 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:58 PM EDT

            Your kids are going to get out in the real world and rebel like crazy, Kimbo. We cannot be helicopters. Kids need to fall and scrape their knee. They need to experience life. While I live in Montana and it's probably safer than where these girls are from, I walked to school in the 80's and 90's. And my kids don't live close enough to the school to walk, but I can tell you right now that I would never stop them from riding up and down the neighborhood on their bikes or letting them walk to the local gas station. They are smart kids and know what to watch for and I am teaching them how to be independent. And showing them that I trust their judgement. I have taught them to be aware and cautious without hovering.

            My kids work out in the yard picking rock and raking leaves, in the garden digging up potatoes and pulling weekds, and take care of the pets twice daily. They get dirty, fall down and step in cactus. But they also have more fun and laugh more than most kids. And they don't depend on video games and fast food like so many of our youth.

            I'm not saying anything about your parenting, but don't judge others for their method. I just personally believe that holding their hands through everything in life is not going to teach them to be adults (which is the whole idea of parenting to begin with).

            This is a tragedy and those parents are going through hell right now. It was the drivers who should be persecuted. These parents did nothing wrong.

            Oh... and I'm liberal and work my a$$ off taking care of my kids. I'm not on gov't assistance. You, ma'am, are judgemental and intolerant. Somehow, I feel sorry for children raised in a home like that.

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            #3.20 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:06 PM EDT

            Well Said MTorEmpty i agree with you its a shame Kimbo won't oh well but you are correct in what you said

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            #3.21 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:09 PM EDT

            Okay, that explains it all - you're 24. Enough said, I do not need to hear anymore.

            I'm 53 years old and my youngest is older than you are.

            And apparently went to a better school. At 24 years old, your grasp of the English language and ability to spell correctly is sorely lacking--my guess is you spent more time on the streets and less time in school, I may be wrong, but just my guess.

            I never said I never made a mistake with my children. What I said was (wonder how many times I have to repeat this) I NEVER made a mistake in judgement or action that put my children in HARM'S WAY. Never-ever.

            And thanks The Chuckster - parents these days are more concerned with being a "friend" to their children instead of their parent.

            We grew up old school - parents raised their kids - not EVERYONE else.

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            #3.22 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:09 PM EDT

            And what are you going to say when they're still in your basement at 30, Chuckie?...

            Unless, of course, they decide to stick you in the basement so they can get away from you...

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            #3.23 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:10 PM EDT

            Lol. Wild Rose From FL You are not the right person to be debating IQ scores. I agree with Kimbo about the girl being out after dark. I wouldn't necessarily call these people bad parents, but I also can't get over the abnormality of both of their children getting hit in the street within days of each other. I would think that a healthy medium between Kimbo and the crash test dummies parents would be adequate.

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            #3.24 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:14 PM EDT

            Actually you are wrong - my kids are 30 and 26. They didn't rebel. They were allowed freedoms - freedom that came with consequences--events where there were adults and not just a group of kids; no walking around downtown after dark until they were in high school and could drive. Curfews that ended at midnight and not 2 or 3 in the morning. Check-in with me if they were out anywhere at night, even supervised so I knew they were safe, things of that nature.

            Kids get their judgement from the actions of their parents. Parents who don't care raise children who don't care.

            So it's my responsibility to show them what good judgement looks like and what bad choices look like. That's my job. That doesn't make them less independent or rebellious either. Mine are neither. They are well adjusted adults.

            And you know what, my mother RAISED ME THE SAME WAY. And here I am at 53 years old, two college degrees, a 25-year retired veteran of the US military, I speak two languages fluently, I own a home, a vehicle and live comfortably and have never lived off my parents since I was 17 and joined the military.

            So I turned out alright and so have my children.

            I'm not "judging" their parenting...what I'm saying is they are making bad choices that have put both of their children in harm's way and they need to address what these YOUNG children are being allowed to do. My 15 year old daughter would have never been on that street at 8:30 at night to be in the way of any harm.

            If that's considered judging, then so be it. I stand behind every word I've said. The proof is in the pudding and I and both of my children are proof that it worked out fine.

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            #3.25 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:20 PM EDT

            And neither of my adult children live with me and neither have since they were 18 and graduated from High School.

            I moved out of my mother's home when I was 17 and joined the military and I never moved back and I raised my children the same way she raised me.

            Sorry...that doesn't hold water either.

              #3.26 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:21 PM EDT

              Travis E - I can meet you halfway and agree with that post!

              Well said.

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              #3.27 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:22 PM EDT

              Well guess what? My parents raised me to think independently. They didn't hold my hand or walk me through life. They didn't hover. They trusted me to be where I was and allowed me to walk around after dark. And I'm 27, managing an office with 1700 employees, and am raising five kids. I own TWO homes, three vehicles, speak two languages, and live comfortably.

              And my kids are amazing children who can think for themselves. I've raised them not to judge others (as Jesus taught us to do) and to be respectful of everyone. They help people who need it, unload the groceries for the elderly woman down the street, help the old man two houses down to weed his garden, get good grades and excel in everything they do.

              And my oldest stepson has just been accepted into MIT. He stays out late, plays football well after it's dark, and makes big-boy decisions on his own. And has never even had a detention.

              Maybe your method worked for you, but my method works for me. And I'm proud of how I raise them.

                #3.28 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:31 PM EDT

                You're 27 and have an oldest stepson that was accepted into MIT?

                Something does not ring true with this post.

                What are you--married to a 45-50 year old?

                And I was protective and so was my mother and I'm more successful than you are - what's your point?

                Oh and BTW, I don't HAVE TO WORK ANYMORE, I retired at 42 years old.

                But thanks for the input...at 27 you won't win this one with me--I've lived 26 years longer than you - I have more experience and tried and true methods simply based on the fact that I've been on the earth longer. And THAT you will NEVER be able to do better than me...until you're 53 years old yourself.

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                #3.29 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:40 PM EDT

                Okay, now everybody on this vine is getting on my nerves. Kimbo, you retired from the Navy, you're not exactly Bill Gates. MTorEmpty, you come off as a giant douche. In fact, both of you do. Wild Rose is probably mentally handicapped now that I think about her post. Be Gone! All of you!

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                #3.30 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:47 PM EDT

                Being someone who lives 30 minutes or so from Fishtown... it's gotten better... but it isnt what i would call great. If i had children and lived in that area i'd sooner drive them places they needed to go.

                MT i do see what you are saying, but it's a completely different area than where you grew up. I'm 34 now... i live 30 minutes from fishtown. When i was 13 i was held up at gunpoint about 5 minutes away from my house (lived in the overbrook park section of west philadelphia at the time). This was at around 2pm on a saturday.

                We cant (as parents... and i know i am not one yet) be helicopters... but at the same time there is a balance.

                Not to mention your oldest stepson... who was just accepted into MIT... is not a 10 or 14 year old girl walking around in a rough neighborhood.

                You live in Montana. I havent been there but i hope its a safer area. I dont hear this happening much in Philly, but it is fishtown... but regardless... hopefully it's a bit of a different situation.

                (i live in a decent burb of philly at the moment) (not to say that fishtown doesnt have it's amazing residents... but)

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                #3.31 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:55 PM EDT

                Travis ; excuse me im not a mental case unlike your stupid as$ go back to your rock troll

                as for you Kimbo i graduated and got a bachelors degree i don't play in the street cause i know better the that [by the way your name is misspelled according to spell check

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                #3.32 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:00 PM EDT

                Once again,for the SEVENTH time,no possible replys to comments until fifty comments later. Thank you for allowing a continuing discourse. It all becomes irrelavent after so long...... Doesn't anyone else see the disassociation in this? Kinda irks me off to the point where I would write "fuygdckskbsds". I don't think that my posts are the only ones affected by this method of discrimination. Speak up!!!!

                  #3.33 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 6:10 PM EDT
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                  This is eerie and creepy!

                  He got out of the van and stared at her...and then fled? And two days later her sister was also struck?

                  Is this some kind of Omen thing or something?

                  This is weird. Is somebody targeting the girls? Is it somebody in the family doing it for money, sympathy, attention or some other reason? It is all so weird.

                  From who killed Mr. Urooj to who is targeting these young girls with their car?

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                  Reply#5 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:20 PM EDT

                  Was kind of thinking the same thing.

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                  #5.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:25 PM EDT

                  Or maybe someone OUTSIDE of the family, doing it for revenge of some sort.

                  Things that make you wanna go hmmmmm.

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                  #5.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:05 PM EDT

                  Maybe it's the same guy with 2 different white vehicles. Or maybe you guys are freakin' nuts.

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                  #5.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:12 PM EDT

                  Stop being stupid! Conspiracy theories are useless!

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                  #5.4 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:23 PM EDT

                  actually Conspiracy theories tend to help the real truth come out, since they snowball and get more and more crazy as they go on (look at how it just did between only 3 posters), the people that are subject of the theories tend to come forward and explain/tell the truth so others won't believe the outlandish levels the theories have achieved.

                  Sad thing though is even after the truth is then presented, the time it took to come clean usually adds to the theories and negates the truth once it is out, thus the theories will be more trusted than the actual truth, but they do bring the truth out.... hmmmm rambling.... good day

                    #5.5 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:25 PM EDT
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                    OK walking alone at night, I get that. Although there age and parent responsibility seems lacking. But in the street. Sounds like there may be no sidewalks in that town, like all of where I live. I'd be suing the city for no sidewalks if that's the case. Makes it very unsafe to walk anywhere.

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                    Reply#6 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:21 PM EDT

                    Philadelphia is more than a "town" and I'm sure there are plenty of sidewalks there.

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                    #6.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:51 PM EDT

                    The younger girl was simply crossing the street when she says the vehicle came "zooming" around the corner. It had tinted windows and "fancy wheels." (Not "walking in the street.")

                    The older girl, reported as being 15 on another news site, was walking with her friend. They were crossing the street at an intersection (not "walking in the street") when the vehicle came speeding toward them. The friend tried to pull her back but was unsuccessful. The vehicle was described as having tinted windows, fancy rims and a tinted license plate.

                    • 2 votes
                    #6.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:27 PM EDT

                    DW123,This is in no way these young girls fault.If you hit a pedestrian the law says you will stop,render aid and call the police.It's obvious to me that the drivers were wither intoxicated.had outstanding warrants,no drivers license and or insurance.It is despicable to injure anybody and take off.These two motorists have whatever coming to them that the courts dish out.I am hopeful that these young ladies will make a full recovery.

                      #6.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:46 PM EDT
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                      There is no such thing as coincidence.

                      Someone doesn't like both of the sisters or what both are aspiring to be.

                      • 2 votes
                      Reply#7 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:26 PM EDT

                      Some mom who has the kids compete in the same activities?

                      Figure skating can be a very competitive sport.

                      Nancy Kerrigan should know that.

                        #7.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:34 PM EDT

                        It might have been Tonya Harding dressed as a man.

                        • 1 vote
                        #7.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:52 PM EDT

                        You mean Tonya Harding wasn't a man?... :-)

                        • 4 votes
                        #7.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:57 PM EDT
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                        Something smells fishy to me!

                        • 1 vote
                        Reply#8 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:37 PM EDT

                        Maybe that's because--no, that's too easy...

                        • 4 votes
                        #8.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:57 PM EDT
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                        white GMC SUV with white rims

                        Ok, so we're looking for a male black subject...

                        • 5 votes
                        Reply#9 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:47 PM EDT

                        Yeah, and its probably you or your mother John! (friggin Tranny)

                        • 5 votes
                        #9.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:56 PM EDT
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                        This is truly disturbing, mankind can be so disgusting and selfish. How can you hit someone and not stop??? That really is disturbing, I hope they find these cowards. These poor girls, I hope they make full and speedy recoveries.

                        • 11 votes
                        Reply#10 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:49 PM EDT

                        First decent post I have read, thank you. I also wish the girls a speedy recovery..

                        • 4 votes
                        #10.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:24 PM EDT

                        I once drove over a "tree branch" on a jungle road in Panama. I saw from my rear view mirror the branch curled up. I stopped and tried to make sure the snake was okay, it slithered away before I got up close. I can never understand how any person can just leave after running down another human being. In hindsight, it probably was not very smart of me to check up on a injured snake the size of a tree branch but I went through jungle survival training in Panama so I thought I'd be okay. I'll never do that again.

                        • 1 vote
                        #10.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:29 PM EDT
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                        Can I get a "Ban SUVs!" from a Tealibani in the audience? They must be taking their naps right about now! But, seriously, folks...

                        Hopefully these hit-and-runners end up without licenses so they can take their chances at the crosswalks against drivers just like them...

                          Reply#11 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:05 PM EDT

                          there was a "Ban Tinted window" up above, u must have missed it

                            #11.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:17 PM EDT
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                            Accidents happen...I understand that...but DAMN stop and get the help they need ASAP and do the right thing....JERKS!

                            • 9 votes
                            Reply#12 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:05 PM EDT

                            Kimbo- I was thinking the SAME THING!!!

                            Just precisely yesterday my 9 yo was going to cross at the corner of my moms street when a car was approaching /yielding but my son stopped then proceeded to go along the sidewalk. My point is tell kids & adults to NEVER cross at a corner if you are going further down that same street cuz there is a good chance that the car can strike you!!! And its not neccesarily the drivers fault all the time, pedestrians whether children or adultds need to make sure the car see's them & yields!!!!

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#13 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:06 PM EDT

                            Both were hit by white vehicles with tinted windows. One was described as an SUV the other as a 4 door vehicle. Could they be the same person?

                            • 6 votes
                            Reply#14 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:08 PM EDT

                            wtf ...I hope they recover and the police catches the driver....but seriously wtf

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#15 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:12 PM EDT

                            I agree Wild Rose!

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                            #15.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:42 PM EDT
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                            reminds me of a movie i once saw...dad owed a ton of money to a bookie. the bookie then turned around and terorized his kids to teach him a lesson.

                            • 1 vote
                            Reply#16 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:16 PM EDT

                            You know, there are some of you--yes, I'm looking at you, SDCAL and Kimbo--who would blame the parents if their kid was hit by lightning or an asteroid fell on them. If anything bad happens to kids, it absolutely must be because of bad parenting! So...are you so perfect that bad things can't happen to your kids? And if it does, do I get to whinge on the Vine about how bad a parent you are for not preventing it?...

                            • 12 votes
                            Reply#17 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:18 PM EDT

                            Thank you!

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                            #17.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:26 PM EDT
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                            How terrible could these girls have been that God put out a hit on them? Or maybe it was one of the parents who God is punishing. Either way, God is a good loving God.

                              Reply#18 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:24 PM EDT

                              Either way, Michael is a trolligator who has to bring religion into every single bleedin' thread...

                              • 4 votes
                              #18.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:42 PM EDT

                              Not his fault; Mike got dropped on his head and hit a bible when he was born.

                              • 3 votes
                              #18.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:34 PM EDT

                              You preach too much about "trolls" ConjuringCat--perhaps you are one?

                                #18.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:29 PM EDT

                                Maybe--because, you, of course, are perfect, Kimbo, and you don't mind telling people that if they don't believe it...

                                  #18.4 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:17 PM EDT
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                                  I'm sure i missed it - i know @ least a few of you must have commented on the coincidental similarity of the vehicles that hit these girls, just don't have time to read all...are they a possible target for some weirdo, a la Dorner?

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#19 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:27 PM EDT

                                  Talk about winning the unlucky lottery. I hope they find these scumbag and they do some serious time.

                                  • 1 vote
                                  Reply#20 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:32 PM EDT

                                  Dad better pay that Bambino his money back for that gambling debt... He already lost his fingers... Now going after family...

                                    Reply#21 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:35 PM EDT

                                    I'm so sorry for their injuries and the drivers should be caught for leaving the scene, but were they crossing in crosswalks? Did they have a walk light? Too many kids near us think that all cars have to and can stop n a dime for them. In the grand scheme of things parents aren't teaching their kids to be proactive about not getting hit. Instead they all seem to think they are in the right to walk in front of cars and think they won't be hit.

                                    Maybe that happened here, maybe it didn't but the article doesn't give the details and either way the kids are hurt.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    Reply#22 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:38 PM EDT

                                    OMFG stop BLAMING the parents! You know who you are, maybe YOUR bad parents.

                                    • 9 votes
                                    Reply#23 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:40 PM EDT

                                    Well, you know what karma is, Wild Rose...

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #23.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:43 PM EDT

                                    it just drove me crazy with Kimbo and other one

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #23.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:45 PM EDT

                                    Maybe we might take you more seriously if you could SPELL.

                                    Come on--cell phones and computers have spell check - use them please.

                                    • 1 vote
                                    #23.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:50 PM EDT

                                    actually my spelling wasn't off maybe you need glasses or what do we call it a life. Good day to you

                                      #23.4 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:52 PM EDT

                                      Well, let me see.

                                      It should be YOU'RE bad parents, not YOUR bad parents.

                                      So perhaps you need to read up on the proper construction of an English sentence.

                                      Plenty of help on the web.

                                        #23.5 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 4:33 PM EDT
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                                        Why is there no physical description of the male suspect? He "hit and ran." Is there a reason the physical description is excluded in the article? Is it to prevent "negative stereoypes?"

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#24 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:42 PM EDT

                                        Or maybe because he didn't stop to pose for a picture, Richard Crani--I mean, Mason?...

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #24.1 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:44 PM EDT

                                        Because they were black, but shhh... we can't say that anymore or your a racist...

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                                        #24.2 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:47 PM EDT

                                        Richard Mason,These are young girls that were hit by hundreds of pounds of steel.They may have been in shock.They were certainly injured and that last thing they were thinking about was getting these criminals description.Unless you live in that city their description on this thread would be of no value.

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #24.3 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:49 PM EDT

                                        Yeah, CCW, because we'uns jest knows that whites don't never hit an'run, do they? Geesh...

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #24.4 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:59 PM EDT
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                                        Want to bet the low life that was driving was on his phone and not paying attention to what was going on.

                                        I hope both girls get well soon. I also hope that the POS driver gets arrested and sent to jail for his driving. Hit and run is a serious offense.

                                        • 2 votes
                                        Reply#25 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:47 PM EDT

                                        The same thought crossed my mind after reading the descriptions of the two vehicles. Very similar. I would like to see the video to see if the vehicles are the same. If not, this is truly a freaky coincidence. I hope both girls recover soon and completely, especially the older girl whose injuries are more serious.

                                          Reply#26 - Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:49 PM EDT
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