Jury finds NYPD cop guilty of plotting to kidnap, cook, eat women

Mark St George / Rex USA

NYPD officer Gilberto Valle, 28, was accused of plotting to kidnap up to 100 women before raping, killing and cooking them.

An NYPD officer accused in a gruesome plot to kidnap women, cook them and dine on their "girl meat" has been convicted on all charges.

Officer Gilberto Valle, a 28-year-old father of one, was found guilty Tuesday on a charge of conspiracy to commit kidnapping and a charge of illegally using a federal computer database that prosecutors had said he accessed to gain personal information about women he was targeting.

The grisly case included online transcripts of his plans; at one point he told an alleged co-conspirator that his oven was "big enough to fit one of these girls if I folded their legs."

"I was thinking of tying her body onto some kind of apparatus ... cook her over a low heat, keep her alive as long as possible," he was accused of saying.

Defense attorney Julia Gatto had argued that Valle's chats on fetish websites "are no more real than an alien invasion."

Prosecutors countered that an analysis of Valle's computer found he was taking concrete steps to abduct his wife and at least five other women he knew. They said he looked up potential targets on a restricted law enforcement database, searched the Internet for how to knock someone out with chloroform, and showed up on the block of one woman.

Valle "left the world of fantasy and entered the world of reality," prosecutor Hadassa Waxman said during closing arguments. She said the officer's arrest last year interrupted a ghoulish plan to "kidnap, torture, rape and commit other horrific acts on young women."

The jury heard Valle's potential victims testify that they were trading innocent-sounding emails and texts with him, unaware he was supposedly scheming to make meals out of them. The government also sought to drive home the point that Valle was more of a threat because he was a police officer.

U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara said in a statement after the verdict was read that "the Internet is a forum for the free exchange of ideas, but it does not confer immunity for plotting crimes and taking steps to carry out those crimes."

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WOW, that some Nasty Headlines...SICKO

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#1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:47 AM EDT

Creepy. Sounds like he's been watching too many Criminal Minds reruns.

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#1.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:57 AM EDT

Or watching too much SVU...

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#1.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:09 PM EDT

This guy is in NYC?? And they want to ban sodas here?? Looks like they got a lot of other BIGGER problems to worry about...but that isn't what its about is it...the controlling elitists freaks of the world??

  • 41 votes
#1.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:12 PM EDT

He got his just desserts. I bet he likes Chianti and fava beans

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#1.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:13 PM EDT
Comment author avatarLeapole7Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Did I miss something? The whole thing didn't sound real. It simply sounded like the plot of from a bad horror movie or novel. And I believe the prosecuting attorney got into the minds of jury with fabricated evidence to get a conviction. Why? Because the guy's lying and bragging was successfully used against him.

  • 13 votes
#1.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:24 PM EDT
Comment author avatarmoonbeamracerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Hummm ... This is a scary decision ... both ways ..

People have all kinds of "fantasy" thoughts ...some more intense than others ..99.999% never act on them ... BUT we now live in a world that wants to regulate evaluate and condemn even peoples thoughts .. that have heretofore been held to be in the private realm ... "Condemning" them is substantially different than "convicting" them of a crime, for having them ...UNTIL they act on them...

Is the "virtual world" now a "action?" If so ... What a bag of worms it opens ........

This will be a interesting case to read the transcripts ...and follow thru the courts ....

  • 26 votes
#1.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:31 PM EDT

Yes, Sick Twisted F*#k!! Should be taken out back and shot!

  • 21 votes
#1.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:33 PM EDT

Leapole, I'd rather he be found guilty of plotting instead of later being found guilty of doing. There's a real sick mind in there, and I don't want to be sitting on the bus next to him when his 2 worlds collide.

This time, it's 'thank you justice system'.

  • 68 votes
#1.8 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:33 PM EDT

And so unusual, so sweet, to nail one of these thugs before a woman died. Most often, we are left picking up the pieces, burying the victim, running fingerprints.

  • 61 votes
#1.9 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:44 PM EDT

I'll never understand why we as a society insist on caring and warehousing the very people who prey upon us, at our own expense. A bullet in front of a live camera would go so much further as a punishment as well as a deterrent, not to mention be hundreds of thousands of dollars or more cheaper.

  • 35 votes
#1.10 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:53 PM EDT
Comment author avatarDoug-950479Expand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I'm sorry, but whenever I see a phrase like "kidnap, cook and eat women," I can't help laughing.

I think it's the cooking.

  • 4 votes
#1.11 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:55 PM EDT

I don't care if it is a fantasy or not. If you are THINKING of kidnapping people to cook and eat them you have ISSUES and need to be locked up and evaluated before you actually carry this crap out.

  • 44 votes
#1.12 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:07 PM EDT

Remove his eyeballs, fill the sockets with cockroaches and sew them shut. Let them eat their way through his brain till he's dead. There.....I feel much better !!!

  • 19 votes
#1.13 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:07 PM EDT

Folks:

This sounds like a weird mash up between the CSI/SVU shows and the cooking channel. This could get us into all kinda trouble like if we start mixing the crime shows with the real estate shows, or Glee, or real housewives, (actually those shows are already a crime against intelligence anyway), or the uncountable awards shows, or the Mickey Mouse Club, or the Simpson's.....hmmmmm???!!!.....might be onto something here.

Peace, Out.

  • 3 votes
#1.14 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:08 PM EDT

Great that they caught this guy before he harmed anyone. I cannot understand the desire to torture and murder innocent people. I hope he is in prison for a long long time. If he had actually succeeded and murdered someone, I think the apt punishment would have been to slowly cook him in the oven while keeping him alive as long as possible to inflict as much pain as possible. How can a mind be so sick and distorted?

  • 20 votes
#1.15 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:22 PM EDT

Chew on that, you sick f**k

  • 17 votes
#1.16 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:34 PM EDT

And they gave him a gun i guess some are just gonna say he was hungry

  • 1 vote
#1.17 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:40 PM EDT
Comment author avatarByron RaumExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

Of course they gave him a gun. And you can bet they still want him to have a gun. Different "they", though. The NRA is a big believer in the right of everyone to carry a weapon. The 2nd Amendment says so.

  • 10 votes
#1.18 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:59 PM EDT

So this guy has some sick thoughts, but hasnt done anything yet...or maybe would never have at all. You know how many times my buddies and I would get in arguments...or just in passing...for example telling your kids, "Steal something again, and i'll break your fingers", or telling a friend who passes gas.."dude, do that again and i'll stick a cork in your a55", or even better yet...."Awe, she so adoreable, I just wanna eat her up"....Obviously, one would never break their kids fingers, or stick a cork in someones butt, or eat a cute kid. I wonder if anti-gun people are OK with him owning a gun...after all, he's a cop!

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#1.19 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:01 PM EDT

Accused and convicted of a crime he hasn't yet committed or just about to? We couldn't even arrest Zacarias Moussaoui with all the clear and obvious evidence against him for plotting and planning and about to execute 9/11 because there was "insufficient probable cause" of a crime.

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#1.20 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:02 PM EDT

So this guy has some sick thoughts, but hasnt done anything yet...or maybe would never have at all.

He looked up women in a restricted database. When you are a cop, you are required to follow the rules; private information is protected for a reason.

Look at what he was convicted for:

Officer Gilberto Valle, a 28-year-old father of one, was found guilty Tuesday on a charge of conspiracy to commit kidnapping and a charge of illegally using a federal computer database that prosecutors had said he accessed to gain personal information about women he was targeting.

He wasn't convicted for eating anyone.

Aside from that, you are equating hyperbole with a reasonable chance of actual intent. There ARE people out there who have broken their kids' fingers, or committed child abuse of that nature. Just because you aren't sick and you would never do something doesn't mean that other people won't.

  • 21 votes
#1.21 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:06 PM EDT

Whats eating Gilberto Grape?

  • 7 votes
#1.22 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:08 PM EDT

Yes, Leapole...you ARE missing something...COMMON sense. Like not being a completely ignorant idiot who thinks you knwthe case based on one artile. Though even this article shows why any R$EASONABLER person (you do not apply to this group since you are nothing but a worthless waste of space) jury member would conclude that it was not lying or bragging. He was taking the steps to carry out this "lying and bragging" for real.

  • 8 votes
#1.23 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:11 PM EDT

It's interesting that a guy who was plotting to cook and eat women would have a female lawyer defending him. I wonder what might have been going through her mind whenever he eyed her. Could it have been, "Maybe I don't want to defend this guy after all."?

  • 5 votes
#1.24 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:15 PM EDT

And another example of why I never want to visit New York!

  • 2 votes
#1.25 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:22 PM EDT

Leapole7

Did I miss something? The whole thing didn't sound real. It simply sounded like the plot of from a bad horror movie or novel. And I believe the prosecuting attorney got into the minds of jury with fabricated evidence to get a conviction. Why? Because the guy's lying and bragging was successfully used against him.

Why are you insisting they fabricated evidence? Do you have access to inside conversations with the DA that we don't? Otherwise it sounds like you are leaping to a pretty big conclusion yourself.....Pot, meet Kettle!

When you actually think about your theory logically, it doesn't really benefit the gov't to admit they have a Psycho on the force. If they wanted to get him out of the way they would have come up with a much more realistic crime.

And yes, it is a crazy movie-plot sounding story. And if he had allowed it to stay fiction he would have walked. But (if you actually paid attention to the evidence) he departed from fntasy as soon as he started researching these alleged targets in the restricted database. No one who is only looking to write fiction is going to actually start stalking people. He didn't just cross that line, he took a big stinky dump on it!

So no, it is not a 1st amendment issue. Plenty of people write about dark fantasies on the internet, but most don't take steps to pursue them.

  • 14 votes
#1.26 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:25 PM EDT

Jamie-2626566

And another example of why I never want to visit New York!

Trust me Jamie. NYC isn't mourning the loss of your presence. One less snotty tourist crowding up the streets, standing there like an idiot with their camera like they've never seen a skyscraper before. I think they will live...

  • 9 votes
#1.27 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:27 PM EDT

Leapole.........I suggest they put you in a cell with this sicko and you can sleep with him at night. Then if you live.....you can confirm that they "missed something".

You're the one that "missed something".......about a zillion brain cells.

  • 11 votes
#1.28 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:35 PM EDT
Comment author avatarEli3kExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

These are Obama's Kenyan values on full display right here. Cannibalism in America will soon be the new norm

  • 2 votes
#1.29 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:37 PM EDT

@Leapole7 Here is the thing.. This cop is in a position of Public Trust..! He was using internal classified resources to plot a criminal act..! If you hold a D.o.D Clearence it is the same way.. If you did the crime or not the Conspiricy is a crime in itself.!

Ok.. What would you do? Let the crime happen then lock the guy up?

  • 7 votes
#1.30 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:41 PM EDT
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What happened to the other guy he was talking to on the computer? He gets off for turning States Evidence? So he is out on the street, eating women... Something not right about all this...

  • 4 votes
#1.33 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:53 PM EDT

It's "To serve and protect", not to serve on a plate. This is why only LEO's should be armed...to bring home the bacon.

  • 3 votes
#1.34 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:05 PM EDT

inmates don't take kindly to cops in jail. maybe they'll turn him into a stew.

  • 3 votes
#1.35 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:10 PM EDT

Woulda made a nice FoodNetwork show......BAMMMMM!!!!!!

    #1.36 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:36 PM EDT

    I don't really know the details of this case -- beyond this story -- If he in fact was a real danger of acting on his sick words and plans --than I am very glad he was caught, tired and convicted -- but as some others have already said here --where is the line between fiction and reality? --can anyone be tried for the "physical threats" made in"remarks" they make in writing right here?

      #1.37 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:51 PM EDT

      and a charge of illegally using a federal computer database that prosecutors had said he accessed to gain personal information about women he was targeting.

      If not for that, he would be out before he posted bail.

      But really, why cook them? And why just women? Is he a sexist that thinks women taste better? Seriously wtf, damn affirmative action.

        #1.38 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:51 PM EDT

        Ok. Firstly, I'm glad he never got the chance to follow through with his plans. That being said, he was going to rape and then eat? Man, the whole thing is sick, but you're going to eat the meat you put your thaaang in??? Maybe he'll get to bang some hamburger meat before he eats it in prison. lol

        • 3 votes
        #1.39 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:53 PM EDT

        So does this mean NYC will start a ban against 'eating' women?

        ;)

        • 4 votes
        #1.40 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:55 PM EDT

        ProFreedom,

        "So does this mean NYC will start a ban against 'eating' women?"

        Only against eating those women who weigh more than 16 ounces. That leaves most female fetuses safe.

          #1.41 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:13 PM EDT

          To all you folks saying it was "just fantasizing", consider this: IF I'm watching the news and the President comes on and I say "I'd love to shoot that SOB", well, that's just me exercising my First Amendment rights. When, however, I continue talking about shooting the President, start laying concrete plans to do so, buy a Barrett .50 cal sniper rifle and ammo, and start obsessively tracking the President's movements, well, at that point, I think the Secret Service has every right to intervene. Sure, maybe I am just a nutcase with lurid fantasies, but that's what the jury's job is to figure out. In this case, they figured that this dude was a bit beyond mere "fantasizing".

          Now, as someone observed, this guy is/was a NYC cop, using NYC cop time and cop equipment and cop data bases to identify and track his victims. Yet Mayor Bloomberg assures us that we'd all be safer if only his cops had guns - why, heck, we aren't even fit to decide if we want to order a 64 oz. soda... So, I'm thinkin', Mayor Bloomberg, that you need to work on your priorities and, while you are at it, how about answering the question, "Quo custodiet custodes?"

          • 1 vote
          #1.42 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:04 PM EDT

          oldFarte, you are an idiot. of all the examples you could have used, you chose a fantasy involving the President?? I hope Secret Service gets their hands on your post and pays you a visit to figure out if your terrible example is indeed an example or your sick fantasy.

          • 2 votes
          #1.43 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:16 PM EDT

          He was not just thinking of hurting his girlfriend or someone close to him. I can see people dreaming about hurting someone who hurt them. But this guy had very detailed fantasies of hurting strangers at at the age of 26. I would not be surprised if he eventually acted on them. Being a cop he could probably hide his crimes better then an average person. I think any person who daydreams about cooking another human being as slowley as they can to see them suffer is a danger to society. This guy has the mind of a serial killer and does not belong in society.

          • 3 votes
          #1.44 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:34 PM EDT

          Good Lord...every time I think humans can't sink any lower - guess what?

          If I were God I would admit my mistake and start over.

          • 4 votes
          #1.45 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:35 PM EDT

          It's "To serve and protect", not to serve on a plate. This is why only LEO's should be armed...to bring home the bacon.

          Ha, Ha, Ha! Too FUNNY!!!

          Now, what if I'm a Gemini or a Pieces, does that mean I can't be armed too?

            #1.46 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:52 PM EDT

            "IndigoKid

            Good Lord...every time I think humans can't sink any lower - guess what?

            If I were God I would admit my mistake and start over."

            Why? Didn't he supposedly make us like him? When you look at history and all the killing done in the name of God I'd say this guy was possibly God himself. (oh oh get read for collapsing post from silly God believers)

            So anyways I wonder what the sentence is for having sick thoughts? Minority Report anyone?

            • 1 vote
            #1.47 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:07 PM EDT

            BP, Basically you are just an ass. You call us silly. But using this platform and story makes you a trollish ignoramus. Continue believing in your bleak eternity and eating cheez-wiz from the can, on the couch, alone, you loser. I won't collapse your post because I want the public to see you as you are...A total loser troll.

            As far as the cop goes..He's batsh!t crazy! I tried to land a job as a police officer when I was younger and was not accepted. And here is this guy, Craphouse rat nutjob and he gets the job! I don't feel so bad about it anymore.

            • 2 votes
            #1.48 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:05 PM EDT

            McGruff said...help take the bite out of crime...not help to put the bite into it...

            • 1 vote
            #1.49 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:33 PM EDT

            Protect and serve, eh?

              #1.50 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:10 PM EDT

              ""So does this mean NYC will start a ban against 'eating' women?""

              Only if you cook em ... it's ok to eat them uncooked ...on Fridays .. lol

              • 1 vote
              #1.51 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:32 PM EDT

              Humans, the other white meat.

              • 1 vote
              #1.52 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:50 PM EDT

              Convicted? Well, there go his chances on being the Food Channel's "Next Top Chef."

              • 1 vote
              #1.53 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:39 PM EDT
              Reply

              Rot in hell! How horrible. He needs to be taken out of the game!

              • 17 votes
              Reply#2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:47 AM EDT

              Since government employees like the police or the prosecuting attorneys lie all the time to the public, I wouldn't be surprised if they fabricated the evidence to get a conviction. Most of us will believe anything public officials say that's how ignorant and stupid some of us are. If you don't believe me, check out some of the reactions to this article. They clearly jump to conclusion without considering that there might have been many lies told just to achieve a conviction.

              • 5 votes
              #2.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:38 PM EDT

              Well...the defense attorney couldn't lie well enough to convince a jury....this time...

              • 9 votes
              #2.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:53 PM EDT

              Poor logic there Leapole7.

              "Sometimes police lie. Therefore, criminals are never guilty because they were framed."

              • 11 votes
              #2.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:09 PM EDT

              leapole7,

              you'd rather have a victim to bury than convicted fella -there's got to be evidence to do so- in the possibility of a wet dream with a woman in an oven? could be your sister, mother or friend in that list, you know?

              • 9 votes
              #2.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:43 PM EDT

              Why are people attacking leaphole? I mean he makes a valid point. I am sure no one wants a sick f*ck running around...but we dont want innocent people getting tossed into prisons either. Its quite scary when we can lock someone up on false testimony, or fabricated testimony...or even worse, on a "maybe" or what if scenario! Once we do that...say good by to our justice system...or whats left of it!

              • 1 vote
              #2.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:06 PM EDT

              mqira...we are attacking hi (and now you) becuase he is an idiot. Tehre is ZERO idication that it was "false testimony" and PLENTY of evidence that everything the prosecution said was 100% factual. Just becuase ome worthless idiot with an intenert account says "Hmmm..I read one whole article on this case and now I am an expert and say that this evidence was fabricated" doesn't make it so. We are attacking Leapole because he is a 12 year old who thinks her is an expert on everything when in fact, he is nothing but an embarrassment to his family. Innocent people who just have sick fantasies don't REALLY stalk their fantasy prey by looking them up (illegally) on police databases, and then showing up outside their home. They also don't look into purchasing the equipment that they fantasized about using to commit these fantasy acts of toruture

              • 7 votes
              #2.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:15 PM EDT

              Come on liberals....go into defense mode and start protecting this guy! lol

              • 3 votes
              #2.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:26 PM EDT

              Jamie.........Leap hole already has been.....wake up.

              • 1 vote
              #2.8 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:37 PM EDT
              Reply

              Well the police are supposed to SERVE the public, right?

              • 18 votes
              Reply#3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:48 AM EDT

              Okay that was sick..but funny!

              • 8 votes
              #3.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:25 PM EDT

              To protect and charbroil

              • 3 votes
              #3.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:55 PM EDT

              Wasn't that a Twilight Zone episode?

                #3.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:05 PM EDT

                BERT-852349: you are wrong: law enforcement is not chartered to protect the public and has been ruled so by may courts, including the USSC, and have no obligation to do so....they do not even have to respond to a TRS is they don't want to, and they are always after the fact in crime that does not mean that police are all bad. that is why people need to be able to protect themselves

                  #3.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:35 PM EDT

                  keith -- Think you missed the joke there, ol' son. Bert didn't say protect; he said serve, like the way you serve a steak with a nice big baked potato and a crisp, fresh salad. Oh great, just made myself hungry again right after lunch...

                  • 4 votes
                  #3.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:45 PM EDT

                  Fries widdat?

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:10 PM EDT

                  I don't know of a woman that doesn't like to be eaten! ;)

                  • 2 votes
                  #3.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:27 PM EDT

                  Honey what's in the smoker? Oh, just some Breasts, Thighs, Legs, a Neck, I threw some Ribs on for you, along with another piece or two...

                  • 1 vote
                  #3.8 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:01 PM EDT

                  I guess he didn't have any appetite for a piece of cod, did he?

                    #3.9 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:56 PM EDT

                    Got to admit, this story has some meat on it.

                      #3.10 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:00 PM EDT

                      the secret's in the sauce...

                        #3.11 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:35 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        Protectin' and servin'.... with some fava beans and a nice chianti....svsvsvsvsvsv

                        • 13 votes
                        Reply#4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:48 AM EDT

                        As a father, husband and son I say cut off his cock tail weenie and make him eat it! Freak.

                        • 13 votes
                        Reply#5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:49 AM EDT

                        ...at least make him think you're going to! ...toast it real slow over a live fire while it's still attached, tell him he may have been on to something with keeping it alive as long as possible. Feels yucky to even say it, wish he could fear it though.

                        • 3 votes
                        #5.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:01 PM EDT

                        Mom-Is that you? :)

                        • 1 vote
                        #5.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:18 PM EDT
                        Reply

                        This goes way beyond a 'bad cop'. This guys is mentally ill.

                        • 23 votes
                        Reply#6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:50 AM EDT

                        What if he isn't mentally ill, what if he's just plainly evil?

                        • 14 votes
                        #6.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:08 PM EDT

                        What if, Adam?

                        • 7 votes
                        #6.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:28 PM EDT

                        @Betty ...

                        This goes way beyond a 'bad cop'. This guys is mentally ill.

                        I agree with you,people are making jokes out of this.,without realising how sick this person is

                        and how many more, are walking the streets along with us ,in the parking garage at night .....You are never safe from this monsters called humans.

                        • 5 votes
                        #6.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:31 PM EDT

                        Bambi, I don't want to start a gun vs no-gun rant here, but it's because of guys like him that I carry a 5-shot .22 derringer in my pocket.

                        • 7 votes
                        #6.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:37 PM EDT

                        He'll just shoot you in the back of the head while your not suspecting anything, or taze or sedate you and hack you off to pieces. Guns can't help you against a mad person intent in killing you.

                        • 6 votes
                        #6.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:13 PM EDT

                        Well, then it means that people aren't good by nature. Think about the implications of that.

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:19 PM EDT

                        Bambi,

                        Wow, I shudder to think! Nah, not really, I thought about it. But if you let it get to you, along with every thing else in this world, you'll need to be put in a padded room...

                        • 1 vote
                        #6.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:13 PM EDT

                        Bad cop,no donut!

                          #6.8 - Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:40 PM EDT
                          Reply

                          I knew it!!! I knew they would find him guilty. So many people said that it wasnt so bad and cant be found guilty because he didnt commit any actual murders, etc. But hellloooo consipiracy to commit people.

                          I hope he gets locked away for a while in jail, and forever in a mental institute! Just scary and sick

                          • 15 votes
                          Reply#7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:53 AM EDT

                          No way this conviction survives an appeal. Thinking and talking about doing horrid sh!t is not a crime.

                          • 7 votes
                          #7.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:27 PM EDT

                          Yes, conspiracy to commit. I wonder if you'd feel the same way if one of your loved ones was on the list?

                          Would you stick your head in the sand? Move along, nothing to see here.

                          • 5 votes
                          #7.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:34 PM EDT

                          Mila, he did more than just talk. He used a federal data base to find victims. He also was seen basically stalking one of his "potential" victims. He crossed the line between fantasizing and taking action.

                          • 15 votes
                          #7.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:38 PM EDT

                          Yes, this guy needs to NEVER see a free society again, if all that has been presented against him is true. I just don't find any redeeming value in keeping people like this in a democratic society. Or any human civilized society. Maybe send him to some remote outposts of the world that still has villages where this sick action is practiced. But not on my block. They should strap a vest full of C4 to the guy and make it his final mission to go and target al-qaeda hideouts. point of no return has been reached for this guy.

                          • 2 votes
                          #7.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:50 PM EDT

                          I don't think he deserves prison, he needs to be in a mental institution for a while. Prison will only give him more time to plan. A mental hospital might actually help him. He obviously needs it. Sick Man.

                          • 1 vote
                          #7.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:15 PM EDT

                          So you don't think these terrorists who plotted to blow up federal buildings, but were caught first...or the kids who plotted to shoot up their school but were caught first should be charged with a crime?

                          • 4 votes
                          #7.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:26 PM EDT

                          Mila...don't embarrass yourself, little child. Therei is NOT WAY this guy wins an appeal. And your statement is just BAFFLINGLY incorrect. Yes...thinking about committing a crime...and taking steps to prepoare for it IS a crime. Always has been.

                          Look...I know you are just an 11 year old whose mother chickened out at the aborton clinic after 9-11 and you THINK you are an expert on evrything...but you are not. There is not a single law expert that thinks this guy will win any appeal. And you are not in ANY WAY smarter than these experts. Or anyone else on this planet.

                          • 1 vote
                          #7.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:18 PM EDT

                          Why he's not a bad cop...its just a cry for help.

                            #7.8 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:41 PM EDT

                            jkfan, that's pretty ridiculously condescending and hostile, to say the least. I'd say Mila is at least smarter than you, or, if not smarter, then at least better in public.

                            And as far as an appeal, the issue isn't the thoughts that he had, but that he took steps to carry them out.

                              #7.9 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:45 PM EDT
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                              And some say these are the only civilians that should carry weapons?!?! America - I gotta laugh to keep from crying.

                              • 14 votes
                              Reply#9 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 AM EDT

                              Good

                              Apparently he misunderstood what "protect and SERVE meant"

                              • 5 votes
                              Reply#10 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 AM EDT

                              The food stamp program is not working.

                              • 5 votes
                              Reply#11 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 AM EDT

                              Guess he could always go into purchasing for Chinese restaurants.

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#12 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 AM EDT

                              I hope he likes his weiners raw.

                              • 9 votes
                              Reply#13 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 AM EDT

                              Pretty obvious this was more than fantasy if he's trolling federal databases for potential victims.

                              • 16 votes
                              Reply#14 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:55 AM EDT

                              And to think, some people put all their faith in cops! I mean it's not shooting or beating, but still....

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#15 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:55 AM EDT

                              Should we get rid of police and let everyone fend for themselves?

                              • 6 votes
                              #15.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:09 PM EDT

                              And to think, some people put all their faith in cops! I mean it's not shooting or beating, but still....

                              WE still have to believe in bad apple and good apple .

                              • 3 votes
                              #15.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:36 PM EDT

                              Terri- not on this vine! most people on here hate all cops, think they are all bad, and all of them are out to get us. Thats the conclusion I've come to when I read these vines on anything about a cop. THey are constantly under attack fromposters on here.

                              Kathrynfmstar for example.

                              • 5 votes
                              #15.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:06 PM EDT

                              there is only one sentence for this creep..solitary confinement in an industrial microwave oven...

                              • 2 votes
                              #15.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:28 PM EDT

                              If you are convicted, you no longer qualify for being "the accused". No need to apply "allegedly" anymore.

                              I think he should get what most of you think he should get...but...did he actually carry out any of this threatened behavior?

                              If not...congratulations on the law enforcement action that intercepted this shlthead BEFORE he carried out plans of this nature. Name a job or group that does not produce psychos and crazies....don't blame cops for this lunatic.

                                #15.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:01 PM EDT

                                Adam just the bad ones, funny thing is how do we know who are the bad ones, until they shoot someone 41 times, or shoot a homeless guy (Seattle) within 4 seconds in confronting him ( he was whittling with a little pocket knife), or they beat the crap out of someone and use the "he was on angel dust defense) or they beat a perp while he's hand-cuffed and throw him into the bayou ( Houston many years ago) No Adam just the bad ones far as I can tell

                                  #15.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:46 PM EDT
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                                  Somebody please tell me this is NOT a true story.

                                  • 7 votes
                                  Reply#16 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:55 AM EDT

                                  it is truth the whole truth nothing but the truth

                                  • 6 votes
                                  #16.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:56 AM EDT

                                  where have you been? lol ... yes its a true story. Creepy right?!

                                  • 5 votes
                                  #16.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:59 AM EDT
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                                  nice now bubba is gonna eat his azz in prison

                                  • 5 votes
                                  Reply#17 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:55 AM EDT

                                  I just got the nastiest picture in my head, thanks for ruining my day!

                                  • 1 vote
                                  #17.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:09 PM EDT

                                  Forget the 'girl meat', it's gonna' be MAN MEAT from here on out. FRESH FISH! FRESH FISH! Ha, ha, ha...

                                    #17.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:00 PM EDT
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                                    Anyone want to take a guess as to how much time he will get or how many people he will hurt when he gets out?

                                      Reply#18 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:57 AM EDT

                                      I am so curious to hear what is sentencing is, I am not familiar with how "serious" of a crime conspiracy is taken... I mean this guy is sick and needs to be locked up for good, even if its in a mental institute versus prison. But I am curious as to what the sentencing is compared to actually carrying out the crimes--- and I also am curious if he gets it more harsh because he took an oath as a cop.... I say he gets 10 years. MAX. And hopefully he never gets out, prison maybe, but mental institute, he needs to be in there for good.

                                      Just scary. The sad thing is I believe he is a father.....

                                      • 5 votes
                                      #18.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:01 PM EDT

                                      He won't ever get out. Unless he is placed permanently in solitary, he will be taken out within a couple of weeks by the prison population. Jeffrey Dahmer was murdered within a few days after he went to prison. Sick bastards like that are taken care of immediately. Not to mention he was also a cop, so his fellow prisoners have yet another reason to remove him from the gene pool.

                                      • 6 votes
                                      #18.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:14 PM EDT

                                      Conviction will be overturned on appeal.

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #18.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:30 PM EDT

                                      Nope.

                                      It appears you're rooting for this guy. Do you have some special recipe you've been meaning to try?

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #18.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:37 PM EDT

                                      Suzie: Even without the horror of his crimes, he's a cop - he won't be released into the general prison population.

                                      • 1 vote
                                      #18.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:09 PM EDT

                                      Overturning the verdict on appeal requires showing a judicial process flaw. I just don't see one. He used a secure federal database illegally, cased out a planned victim, and blabbed over the internet he was taking these steps to commit kidnaping, murder and cannibalism. These are all illegal, and so is taking concrete steps in preparation for same. He doesn't have a leg to stand on.

                                      It's excellent to see a bad cop discovered and given more punishment than just termination. A cop going to jail sends a powerful message about justice. Given the nature of the crime, I'd guess he gets 8-10.

                                        #18.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 2:34 PM EDT
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                                        So many sick minds out there. There need to be a study done on the criminally insane and at what point will the mentallly ill people begin to act out and what signs we can look for to pick them out before they commit these horrible acts. Then we can treat them or get them off the streets and protect the rest of us from them.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        Reply#19 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:58 AM EDT

                                        hard to believe that such deviant behavior even exists! I was against capital punishment a while back but I think execution should be reserved for people like this.

                                        • 6 votes
                                        Reply#20 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:00 PM EDT

                                        Holy @!$%#, he did what???? :-O

                                        • 1 vote
                                        Reply#21 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:00 PM EDT

                                        He just PLANNED these sick events, no one was hurt as I read the article.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #21.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:26 PM EDT

                                        I wonder how he got traced ?........My God !!! can you imagine doing this to his own wife and child .

                                        Wow !!! how come no one had a clue how monstrous this human is .

                                        • 1 vote
                                        #21.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:44 PM EDT

                                        JessieZ .......... what's your point?

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #21.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:46 PM EDT

                                        bambi - His wife turned him in when she found plans to kill and eat her on his computer. Poor woman fled with her baby and turned him in to the FBI. Can you imagine? You think you know someone, you vow to spend your life with him, have a baby together, & then you see this on his computer? I hope she stays safe and finds some peace in life--and I hope he's locked away forever where he can't hurt anyone.

                                          #21.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:18 PM EDT
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                                          Sick S.O.B!!! I hope he rots to the core!!! It isn't enough fire in HELL for him!!! SICKO!!!!

                                          • 3 votes
                                          Reply#22 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:00 PM EDT

                                          Perhaps you're right, but the fire that is in hell may just cook some little hottie down there; just the way this freak likes them!!! EWWWWWW!!!!!!

                                            #22.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:50 PM EDT
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                                            Cannibal Cops!!!!! let's ban grande lattes

                                            • 4 votes
                                            Reply#23 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:01 PM EDT

                                            I've got dibs on that as my next bands name.

                                              #23.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:56 PM EDT
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                                              WOW this gives good taste a whole new meaning!

                                                Reply#24 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:05 PM EDT

                                                I wonder if he prefers white meat over dark meat or casseroles over fried food. THIS IS A PIG.

                                                • 2 votes
                                                Reply#25 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:06 PM EDT

                                                In one of his emails he states that he likes white meat not dark. Sick fool!!!!

                                                • 1 vote
                                                #25.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 3:10 PM EDT
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                                                Sick f*cks like this should not be allowed to live.

                                                If he cannot be sentenced to death, he should be used for medical research instead of innocent monkeys.

                                                • 4 votes
                                                Reply#26 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:07 PM EDT

                                                that would be tooo nice. give to the public.

                                                  #26.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:25 PM EDT
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