Colorado: Gays and lesbians can enter civil unions

Ed Andrieski / AP

Rep. Pete Lee, D-Colorado Springs, left, and Rep. Tony Exum, D-Colorado Springs, confer as the civil unions bill is debated in the House Chamber at the Capitol on Monday, March 11, 2013.

Colorado lawmakers on Tuesday approved legislation allowing same-sex couples to enter civil unions, two weeks before the U.S. Supreme Court will hear arguments over whether gays and lesbians can wed.

The state House of Representatives voted 39-26 to pass the “Colorado Civil Union Act,” about one month after the Senate approved the bill. Democratic Gov. John Hickenlooper, who said he will sign the legislation, tweeted: “#CivilUnions passes! Today, every Coloradan has equal rights.”

Some House Republicans said that the bill, which goes into effect May 1, will be challenged because it doesn’t offer religious exemptions. "We won't get to debate this again here, but we will debate this in a court of law," Republican Rep. Lori Saine told The Denver Post.

Five other states allow civil unions, providing state-level spousal rights to same-sex couples, while nine other states, plus the District of Columbia, grant same-sex marriage, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.


Same-sex marriage is not allowed in Colorado, where voters passed a constitutional amendment in 2006 defining marriage as between a man and a woman. The civil-unions legislation passed on its third try, according to Lambda Legal.

Though lawmakers and others applauded Tuesday’s vote, some said it did not go far enough.

"Of course civil unions and domestic partnerships, no matter how complete the package of protections, are not marriage,” Jennifer Pizer, Lambda Legal's law and policy project director, said in a statement. “True equality is the freedom to marry the one you love and be included under the same laws as your neighbors. It is time to end the exclusion of same-sex couples from marriage, and Lambda Legal and many others will continue to fight for that goal."

The Supreme Court will hear two cases related to same-sex marriage at the end of March: The justices will hear arguments over the constitutionality of Proposition 8, a California law banning same-sex marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, federal legislation barring recognition of same-sex marriage.

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Romans 1:32

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#1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:53 PM EDT

I don't have a Bible handy, is that the one where Jesus says gay marriage is fine?

  • 25 votes
#1.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:58 PM EDT

What does that have to do with legal, secular rights?

How about the verses about "rendering unto caesar" and "my kingdom is not of this earth", indicating that we shouldn't use the bible to write our laws?

How about the constitution that we live under?

hmmm. :)

  • 26 votes
#1.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:02 PM EDT

They've been in labor unions for quite a while.

  • 1 vote
#1.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:03 PM EDT

And the fight continues on. This country will remain in hypocrisy until every single US citizen is granted all rights afforded them under the US Constitution.

  • 24 votes
#1.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:10 PM EDT

I've never understood why anyone would want to deny something to others they claim for themselves, when it would cost them nothing to give it. I could understand if it took something away from traditional marriage, but allowing everyone to share the same rights and freedoms is FREE. How mean-spirited must you be to object to this?

  • 30 votes
#1.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:12 PM EDT

They haven't really gotten behind the idea of equal rights and freedom for all, which is sad. Haters and bigots will use any rationalization to justify their thoughts and actions.

  • 17 votes
#1.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:16 PM EDT

I don't know that it really is so much as "mean-spirited" as it is pure ignorance, not to mention that some use the bible as it suits them, though very little truly understand the words and the meaning. If most were forced to live word by word to the bible, I have a feeling the bible would be sold in the clearance section of book stores.

True that, vermontguy. It's as if they feel they have a right to designate who gets equal rights and who gets freedom. Wow, kinda harkens back to the days of slavery, wouldn't you say?

  • 10 votes
#1.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:17 PM EDT

Although I disagree, I'm not concerned. These Colorado politicians signed their own career death warrants when they passed their ignorant anti-gun bills, so after the next election when the Republicans take control again, we'll go ahead and reverse this stupid, liberal bullsh!t and restore order and common sense to our state.

  • 1 vote
#1.8 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:32 PM EDT

"order and common sense"? you mean hate and bigotry?

and if by "liberal bs" you mean freedom and equal rights, I agree. :)

why do you hate freedom? :)

  • 22 votes
#1.9 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:33 PM EDT

y don't u move into the woods.

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:39 PM EDT

Posting a verse from the oldest collections of misguided parables and fairy tales doesn't count. Being homosexual is bad for the religious bigots, but it is OK for the religious bigots to exalt in the joys of holy mass murder, incest, rape and slavery as well as even usury and extortion. Go figure :/!

  • 12 votes
#1.11 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:39 PM EDT
reno 911Deleted

marriage has pros and cons, of course. But the key is that people should have the freedom to suffer based on their own choices, not be denied rights and treated like second class citizens based entirely on hate and bigotry from the "tyranny of the majority".

  • 10 votes
#1.13 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:42 PM EDT
reno 911Deleted

Chris - try reading the Gospels once a decade. You may pick up something about respect and tolerance.

And regarding Romans.... what is unnatural to some may be natural to others.

  • 4 votes
#1.15 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:44 PM EDT
reno 911Deleted
Comment author avatarCarryingconcealedExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

I don't hate freedom, steveo, I hate homosexuality. I find everything about the gay agenda to be unnatural and disgusting.

And I'm an atheist so oops, there goes your bible-thumper argument.

  • 2 votes
#1.17 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:06 PM EDT

Next on Colorado's agenda will be legislation to approve Polygamy.

Yep, that will go along well with other Progressive agenda.

  • 2 votes
#1.18 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:19 PM EDT

Carryingconcealed - I don't hate freedom, steveo, I hate homosexuality. I find everything about the gay agenda to be unnatural and disgusting.

Sounds like you're a greedy bigot who wants special rights and privileges for himself which you'd like to deny the people you hate.

You're just like the racist Mormons and racist Southern Baptists who thought mixed-race couples should be denied the right to marry. People like you have always thought some Americans should be 2nd-class citizens.

  • 16 votes
#1.19 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:37 PM EDT

Chris Aslan

United States Constitution - September 17, 1787. No mention of Christianity either. Guess that means, we the people applies to everyone. Remember - Amendment #1 - CONGRESS SHALL MAKE NO LAWS respecting the establishment of a religion. Hmm.. Christianity is not the national religion of the United States.

ldo

No. However, SCOTUS is going to rule that Gays/Lesbians can get married EVERYWHERE in the United States. Hmmm.. That will sure go against the far right, christian ideals of discriminating against Americans and ignoring the bill of rights..

Colorado - A good step forward, but ... that creates a "separate" but equal clause of civil unions vs marriage. Unconstitutional and not good enough. Everyone is equal in the eyes of the law, and that includes MARRIAGE as a CIVIL RIGHT for gays/lesbians too.

  • 13 votes
#1.20 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:37 PM EDT

Polygamy is something practiced in hetero cultures. It's a strawman argument to say giving gays the right to marry will lead to anything other than giving gays the right to marry.

  • 8 votes
#1.21 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:42 PM EDT

concealed: you believe in denying freedom to others based entirely on your personal hate, therefore you hate freedom. Its not that hard to understand..unless you are a bigot. :)

  • 14 votes
#1.22 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:44 PM EDT

Polygamy is something practiced in hetero cultures

The problem I have with polygamy is that it has a strong history of the sexual abuse of children and the subjugation of women.

  • 5 votes
#1.23 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:12 PM EDT

Carryingstupid,

You must miserable. All the issues in the world today and no of them are on your side. Boo friggen hoo.

You hate blacks. You hate gays. You hate anybody different then you ... and in this changing world ... your dumb enough to think that the republicans have a chance to take back power in the USA when they are a dying breed of cannibals. I hope to hell you live in a blue state full of blacks & gays ... I bet your head nearly exploded after Faux News & Rush told you Romney would win in a landslide, when in fact he got bounced. Too bad you didn't unconceal on yourself. Obama four more years, that's why you are: The Angry Turkey. Gooble! Gooble!

  • 8 votes
#1.24 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:17 PM EDT

Romans 1:32

Is that the odds of anyone in the 21st century caring what's in the book of Romans?

  • 5 votes
#1.25 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:41 PM EDT

Well Matt, those who are not ignorant morons, who think they know everything, are probably very interested in historical sources such as the book of Romans. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

  • 1 vote
#1.26 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:56 PM EDT

@1devon

Don't misunderstand. I'm not advocating for polygamy. I'm just stating that's it's disingenuous to compare it to gay marriage. Just like comparing gay marriage to marrying an animal, inanimate objects and some of the other nonsense thrown out by those who oppose gay marriage.

  • 2 votes
#1.27 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:57 PM EDT

This type of legislation has been voted down every time it has been on the ballot. The majority of the voters in the State of Colorado have spoken on this matter, and the their answer was no. What part of NO doesn't this lousy liberal Congress and our sorry assed Govener understand. I guess they learned a trick or two from Obama and are just bypassing the voters kinda like executive power.

    #1.28 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:01 PM EDT

    It does infringe upon my rights when I am forced by law to participate in a "gay marriage" or "union" or I am not respected for my views which are not in agreement. If I am a personal participant by providing personal services for weddings, such as a wedding photographer, musician, custom decorator or consultant, my personal or artistic right to choose what I participate in must be respected in a free society. So far in gay marriage states, business people have been sued or fined under the law for refusing services of various kinds. I have no problem selling an item alone, but services that have personal or artistic involvement must be off limits to any legal harrassment by the gay crusaders. Live and let live goes both ways. If you want that choice have at it but leave me alone, in every way. You can't regulate my moral beliefs and every public expression of my freedom of conscience.

      #1.29 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:03 PM EDT

      Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

      Indeed .. to this day, people still use religion to justify violence against those "worthy of death", ignoring the centuries of suffering caused by such twisting of faith.

      • 3 votes
      #1.30 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:15 PM EDT

      Romans 1:32

      Completely irrelevant to our secular laws!

      I find everything about the gay agenda to be unnatural and disgusting.

      What exactly is the "gay agenda?"

      It does infringe upon my rights when I am forced by law to participate in a "gay marriage" or "union"

      How are you being forced to participate in gay marriages?

      So far in gay marriage states, business people have been sued or fined under the law for refusing services of various kinds.

      Because businesses cannot discriminate according to the law.

      but services that have personal or artistic involvement must be off limits to any legal harrassment by the gay crusaders.

      If you operate a business, you are bound by the buisiness laws on the books.

      You can't regulate my moral beliefs and every public expression of my freedom of conscience.

      NBo one is trying to, nor is it relevant!

      • 6 votes
      #1.31 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:31 PM EDT

      tobyboy - It does infringe upon my rights when I am forced by law to participate in a "gay marriage" or "union" or I am not respected for my views which are not in agreement.

      When have you been forced to participate in a same-sex marriage?

      If I am a personal participant by providing personal services for weddings, such as a wedding photographer, musician, custom decorator or consultant, my personal or artistic right to choose what I participate in must be respected in a free society.

      If you're a business offering services to the general public you have to comply with public accommodations laws. That's why you can't refuse service to a mixed-race couple even if you're a racist Southern Baptist or a racist Mormon. It's the same reason you can't refuse service to a divorced person even if you're a Catholic.

      And just an FYI, sexual orientation is a protected class under Colorado's public accommodations laws, even before the civil unions law was passed. That means you bigots are pretty much screwed anyway.

      • 4 votes
      #1.32 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:42 PM EDT

      No Apologies for being an American - This type of legislation has been voted down every time it has been on the ballot.

      Sounds like you missed the last election where you bigots lost every single state ballot measure about marriage equality.

      But if you're talking about Colorado specifically, that's why we have a federal constitution with a bill of rights - to prevent the majority from trampling the civil rights of a minority. Or did you forget what happened after you nutballs passed Amendment 2? Maybe you should read Romer v Evans to find out.

      • 5 votes
      #1.33 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:44 PM EDT

      skrekk said: "People like you have always thought some Americans should be 2nd-class citizens."

      In the famous words of George Orwell in his book Animal Farm: "All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others."

      Now do you really believe he was referring to animals here? Just read some of steamie's posts. Are you telling me that you honestly believe he is your equal? He's not the equal of a baboon with severe head trauma. He's as dumb as the day is long and unfortunately for the rest of us, the Internet provides him a forum to continue proving this over and over and over and over and . . . well you get the point.

      Oh and, steamie . . . I believe it's gobble gobble, not gooble gooble. There is apparently no end to the depth of your dumbassedness. (Yes, I invented a word just for you.)

        #1.34 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:57 PM EDT

        If I am a personal participant by providing personal services for weddings, such as a wedding photographer, musician, custom decorator or consultant

        and you are heterosexual??

        • 2 votes
        #1.35 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:02 PM EDT

        Carryingconcealed - Just read some of steamie's posts. Are you telling me that you honestly believe he is your equal?

        If he's a lawful adult American citizen, then yes he's my equal under the law..........unless he's gay, in which case as a straight guy I have special rights and privileges which he's currently denied.

        But it sounds like you think you deserve those special rights and privileges, and think that Steamie should be treated as a 2nd-class citizen. You're just a typical greedy bigot.

        • 3 votes
        #1.36 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:15 PM EDT

        what a stupid post by concealed. by "equal" we are clearly talking about equal rights here (not, say, equal athletic talent, equal IQ, equal physical features, etc), and as shrekk posted, all law-abiding american citizens should have equal legal civil rights.

        Fortunately, for the rest of us, the internet provides you a forum to prove, over and over, that you are a hypocritical bigot who just doesn't get it. :)

        • 4 votes
        #1.37 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:23 PM EDT

        That's good. Then let them go home and live in thier sick, twisted, perverted little world.

          #1.38 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:54 PM EDT

          @1Devon, The sexual abuse of children and subjugation of women are also common in the Roman Catholic Church.

          Civil unions are not equal to the marriage rights that heteros enjoy. It is a good step but when GLBT people can enter into the same legal marriage will be the acceptable. What churches do is sacramental matrimony and they will always get to pick and choose who they will and who they wont marry because of the religious protections of the First Amendment.

          • 3 votes
          #1.39 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:57 PM EDT

          Why all the anger, vermontguy? Are you a homosexual? Are you angry that the majority of the people in this country don't agree with your diseased lifestyle and would like to see you eradicated from society?

          The fact is we have too many rights and freedoms in this country, and we've become too tolerant of the lifestyle choices of people who place their own wants and needs above the greater good of all of society.

          You liberals and your gimme gimme gimme mentality are a scourge in this society and, unfortunately, just as Europe is experiencing today, it's just something that we'll have to allow to run its course and let it inflict unbelievable harm on our country before people will wake-up and drive you fools underground where you belong.

            #1.40 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:54 AM EDT

            The fact is we have too many rights and freedoms in this country

            That's coming from a person who's handle is carryingconcealed?

            and we've become too tolerant of the lifestyle choices of people who place their own wants and needs above the greater good of all of society.

            The majority of Americans aren't packing heat nor do they want to. So aren't you putting your wants and needs above the greater good of society? Especially with the naked hatred you have with one segment of society?

            • 2 votes
            #1.41 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:22 AM EDT

            Liberals could hardly be described as "one segment of society," as if they only comprise an infinitesimal part of society like gays do.

            As for carrying a concealed weapon, I would gladly agree to lay down my arms if you'll agree to get the f##k out of my country.

            It might be worth noting here, though, that I didn't say that we shouldn't have any rights, just that we have too many. However, I hardly think that a person's right to carry a firearm in order to protect themselves and their family is one of the rights that would fall into the category of too many.

            Gay marriage would, however...

              #1.42 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:41 AM EDT

              Carryingconcealed - The fact is we have too many rights and freedoms in this country, and we've become too tolerant of the lifestyle choices of people who place their own wants and needs above the greater good of all of society.

              You sound like one of those conservatives who wants more big government in everyone's personal lives, especially in the bedroom. You guys never did believe in liberty.

              Either that or you're one of those theocratic Southern Baptist nutballs. I'll bet you were really pissed in 1967 when you learned that mixed-race couples would be allowed to marry in your benighted state.

              • 2 votes
              #1.43 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:04 PM EDT

              Carrying,

              I'm confused. How would allowing homosexuals to get married harm society at large?

              • 1 vote
              #1.44 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:24 PM EDT

              Funny, the verses leading up to Romans 1:32 say nothing of homosexuality, except that it was going on (Romans 1:26&27). If you look at the historical context, homosexuality was considered "wrong" not because it was immoral or a "sin against God", but because the Middle East was going through a population crisis with waning birth rates and homosexuals, by practice, cannot produce children.

              In fact, this political-historical narrative states that the reason homosexuality was even going on was because "god gave them over to their shameful lusts." That's right, homosexuality is god's fault.

              • 1 vote
              #1.45 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:52 PM EDT

              There's nothing to be confused about, Steve. Gay marriage is simply one part of a much larger issue at play, and it's simply that the tenets that comprise the liberal platform place personal happiness and personal gain above the greater good of society as a whole, and if there's one thing that history has shown us, and is proving out once again in Europe, it's that liberalism/socialism will eventually rot any society from the inside out. (Ask Sweden and France and a host of other European countries if they're happy with the results of their liberal immigration policies)

              Ignorant, naive people like skrekk mistakenly believe that anyone who stands for less rights and freedoms must be someone who loves government and lives in a trailer thumping their bible. Well I'm an atheist and I hate our government, but I don't hate it as much as I hate liberalism, and unlike liberalism, government is a necessary evil to ensure that anarchy doesn't prevail in any society.

              This mindset of if it feels good do it is completely contradictory to a sound, healthy society and economy, but liberals continue to push this type of agenda on everyone else under the auspices of individual rights and freedoms. Look, gays don't have any less rights than anyone else, and they're not a protected class of people, they just can't get married and that because DOMA exists and defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

              I could give example after example of how liberalism is a disease that is eating away at our society, but all you really have to do is take a look around and ask yourself, is our society and our economy in a better place today than it was fifty years ago, and are we headed down a path that will result in a better place to live with more opportunity for the next generation, or are we headed for a train wreck?

                #1.46 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:56 PM EDT

                I could give example after example of how liberalism is a disease that is eating away at our society, but all you really have to do is take a look around and ask yourself, is our society and our economy in a better place today than it was fifty years ago, and are we headed down a path that will result in a better place to live with more opportunity for the next generation, or are we headed for a train wreck?

                I guess this is where we disagree. I would answer both of those questions with a "yes".

                • 1 vote
                #1.47 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 2:57 PM EDT

                Carryingconcealed- Look, gays don't have any less rights than anyone else, and they're not a protected class of people, they just can't get married and that because DOMA exists and defines marriage as between a man and a woman.

                No wonder you dumb bigots have lost every single DOMA case so far......you don't understand what the constitution requires or how equal protection works.

                Ask Edie Windsor whether she had "equal rights" when she was forced to pay $363,053 in federal inheritance tax, merely because her deceased wife was the wrong gender.

                • 3 votes
                #1.48 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 5:09 PM EDT

                @carryingconcealed

                Liberals could hardly be described as "one segment of society," as if they only comprise an infinitesimal part of society like gays do.

                I was referring to gays, not liberals.

                As for carrying a concealed weapon, I would gladly agree to lay down my arms if you'll agree to get the f##k out of my country.

                Well considering I was born in your country, raised in your country and served honorably in your country's Army I think I have more than earned the right to stay in your country, thank you very much.

                I have no problem with a person's right to bare arms. My son's been going to the range with his uncle since he was ten. It doesn't interest me anymore, so I don't bother. I do worry about people like you who have an irrational deep seated hatred for those not like you. You sound like someone who's just itching for an excuse to take 'one of them' out.

                I can't figure out how people with your mindset find it perfectly fine to scream about their second amendment right, yet conveniently become silent on the fourteenth amendment.

                • 2 votes
                #1.49 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:56 PM EDT
                Reply

                Some House Republicans said that the bill, which goes into effect May 1, will be challenged because it doesn’t offer religious exemptions. "We won't get to debate this again here, but we will debate this in a court of law," Republican Rep. Lori Saine told The Denver Post.

                Religious exemptions? That must means there is a religious inclusion. Religion and law do not mix. There is a difference between legal marriage and Holy Matrimony. In no way shape or form are any churches required to perform ceremonies to any couple the don't wish to provide religious services for. However, the justice of the peace must marry any with a license. Do you see the difference? This is not about what is right or moral. This is about what someone has and doesn't want another group to have based on dogma and religious belief.

                • 9 votes
                Reply#2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:00 PM EDT

                And where does the governor get off on claiming that this bill will finally give "equal rights" to same-sex couples? No matter how you define a "civil union", until ALL civil licenses (marriage/civil union/domestic partner), along with the 1400+ related laws, are made truly equal by using the same terminology, there is no equality...separate but not equal is what they are doing in CO and any where else that denies same-sex marriage under the guise of "equality through civil union." ALL marriage licenses are "civil union" licenses and should read accordingly, along with the laws.

                • 6 votes
                #2.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:30 PM EDT
                reno 911Deleted

                actually, politically, supporting gay rights as obama did, especially at first, was at best a break even issue...he lost about as many votes as he gained. This was probably a true reflection of his beliefs.

                I agree that we should just get rid of all anti-gay laws and move on.

                • 7 votes
                #2.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:53 PM EDT

                Religious exemptions? Seriously? What clueless bigots the Republicans are.

                I wonder if Colorado's existing marital statute gives specific religious exemptions to Southern Baptists and Mormons so they won't be forced to perform religious weddings for gays or for mixed-race couples, or have the clueless Republicans in Colorado realized the 1st Amendment already covers that?

                • 5 votes
                #2.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:03 PM EDT

                One o the first things Obama did was stop the legal defense of DOMA, and push for a DADT repeal. He played a pragmatic game, but he was never against marriage rights. He's even tried to figure out ways to apply marriage benefits at the Federal level without violating DOMA until it's ruled on.

                • 4 votes
                #2.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:51 PM EDT
                Reply

                Separate but equal does not fly.

                • 16 votes
                Reply#3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:02 PM EDT

                Very true, but the new law also adds another test case of inequality to the "8-state solution."

                In fact all of these civil unions / domestic partnership laws will be proof to the court of unlawful bias, since the state no longer has any legal distinction between 1st-class marriage and 2nd-class marriage.

                The irony here is that the relevant precedent is Romer v Evans, which originated in Colorado.

                • 7 votes
                #3.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:06 PM EDT

                Agreed, but it is at least a step in the right direction until the Supreme Court can finally put an end to this issue

                • 4 votes
                #3.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:10 PM EDT
                Reply

                Welcome to party, Colorado. Well, almost to the party. Stop the pretense of calling gay relationships something different from straight ones, and then you'll be treating them fully equally. But hey, this is a good move.

                • 4 votes
                Reply#4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:04 PM EDT

                No, it is NOT a good move. See my comment above. Separate but not equal is what this is. Until they repeal their anti-same-sex marriage constitutional amendment, there is NO equality in CO.

                • 3 votes
                #4.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:33 PM EDT

                Anti-trust, everyone recognizes this is a Jim Crow law. But not only does it advance equal rights in fact, it more importantly creates a blatant inequity for SCOTUS to resolve since there's no longer a reason under state law to distinguish between marriage and civil unions other than their constitutional ban on SSM.

                • 5 votes
                #4.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:11 PM EDT

                The fact that doesn't go all the way doesn't mean that it isn't still a good move. A move towards equality is a good move, even if it fails to make it all the way.

                • 5 votes
                #4.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:11 PM EDT

                ken-3185183 - see fags are never happy.....

                Would you bigots be happy if you were treated as 2nd-class citizens?

                • 4 votes
                #4.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:04 PM EDT
                Reply

                First they legalize marijuana and now, they're taking a bold step towards equal rights for gays. The state's population is going to explode

                • 3 votes
                Reply#5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:07 PM EDT
                reno 911Deleted

                Re: jenny-254912:

                The state's population will not explode, but Utah's might. Because there still in shock about finding out the world is not flat.

                • 3 votes
                #5.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:03 PM EDT
                Reply

                Must be all the loons moving to Colorado from Mexifornia that push this crap. Lip lock your boyfriend, Culheath.

                • 3 votes
                Reply#6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:09 PM EDT

                Where y'all from, riverman, down in the holler? Gonna eat you some grits and squirrel for supper? Mmmm, that's some dandy supper y'all got goin' on in the trailer!

                • 8 votes
                #6.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:13 PM EDT

                must be all the sensible people finally overriding the hate and bigotry of the homophobes like riverman. :)

                Boy it must suck to be you, watching your hate go to waste, state by state. :)

                • 10 votes
                #6.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:14 PM EDT

                Lip lock your boyfriend, Culheath.

                I live alone and am happy with that. My spouse of 14 years died in a car accident 16 years ago, that was my last relationship by choice.

                • 2 votes
                #6.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:37 PM EDT
                Reply

                Civil Unions make Second Class citizens. Seperate is NOT equal (Brown v Board 1952)

                Thankfully with SCOTUS on the verge of ruling in favor of Same Sex Marriage, these silly arguements will end soon.

                • 5 votes
                Reply#7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:10 PM EDT

                I hope you're right :) ! If SCOTUS looks at Section 1 of Article IV of the Constitution, that decision should be a no-brainer.

                • 5 votes
                #7.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:34 PM EDT
                Reply

                Why do lesbians hate to be called gay? I'm serious on this..... it used to be "queer"... didn't matter male or female... then it evolved to homosexual.... now it has splintered into gay, lesbian, transgender (I really do not understand that one), bisexual, and whatever else I missed......

                The point being, lesbians are GAY.... right?

                  Reply#9 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:17 PM EDT

                  Do lesbians hate to be called gay? I haven't heard that before.

                  For whatever reason, common word usage amongst most people has evolved to where "gay" is typically used more for male homosexuals. Why? who knows? who cares?

                  • 7 votes
                  #9.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:19 PM EDT

                  Queer means a lot of things besides Same Sex relations these days. The idea was inclusion - transgendered people were often left out of the discussion. Evolution of culture, happening right before your very eyes. Call people what they ask you to, not what you want them to, that's usually the best way to get along.

                  • 8 votes
                  #9.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:21 PM EDT

                  Hey i don't mind being called a Lesbian and i am a older white male. And i still like and think about women all the time, like i have heard Lesbians do, so i am very proud to be one too .

                  • 1 vote
                  #9.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:12 PM EDT

                  Most "lesbians" have names, you could try that.

                  • 5 votes
                  #9.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:40 PM EDT
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                  Colorado, land of legal junkies, sodomites and adulterers.

                  Is this a great state or what?

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#10 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:23 PM EDT

                  yeah, freedom, what a crazy idea? Lets go to iran and live under strict religious rule! Brilliant!

                  clue for the clueless: plenty of pot smokers, gays, and adulterers in every state. Not to mention alcohol drinkers, who are also "legal junkies". :)

                  • 8 votes
                  #10.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:25 PM EDT

                  Seriously?? While this is somewhat good news for providing some rights to gay couples, it simply falls short of providing complete equal rights and marriage equality for all. Watering down the rights that straight couples have for gay couples, is still discriminatory. It's 2013, and in a nation prideful of its freedoms and claims to everyone having the same rights, it still falls terribly short. I guess you think only certain kinds of people should have all the rights afforded to them by the Constitution :/.

                  • 3 votes
                  #10.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:29 PM EDT

                  yeah, freedom, what a crazy idea?

                  I guess he wants BIG government.

                  • 4 votes
                  #10.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:42 PM EDT

                  I hear that jesus was a "legal junkie" who..gasp..drank wine! oh, the horror. :)

                  • 6 votes
                  #10.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:03 PM EDT
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                  Sorry Double post

                    Reply#11 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:30 PM EDT

                    Vermontguy:

                    It is SAD when those who disagree with your opinion are haters and bigots.

                    I don't believe I am either but I do disagree with you for personal reasons

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#12 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:34 PM EDT

                    Its not disagreeing with my opinions that makes you a bigot. Its denying rights to others based on personal prejudice.

                    Don't approve of gays/gay marriage/gay civil unions? I don't care, just don't stand in the way of freedom. THAT is what is truly sad.

                    Looking at most of the anti-gay opinions here, "bigots" and "haters" seems pretty accurate, wouldn't you agree? :)

                    • 8 votes
                    #12.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:40 PM EDT

                    Earl,

                    That's because the only reason people oppose gay rights is bigotry. Maybe not hate, but damn sure bigotry.

                    • 4 votes
                    #12.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:42 PM EDT

                    Vermontguy,

                    A lot of them, religious bigots anyway, don't see it as hate. You know, that "love the sinner hate the sin" crap.

                    Of course, they obviously haven't considered there might be a connection between oppression and hate. Kinda hard to have one but not the other.

                    • 4 votes
                    #12.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:48 PM EDT

                    well, I kinda use the catchall phrase of "bigots and haters" since its hard to separate them out, and know exactly when they cross the line from one to the other".

                    • 6 votes
                    #12.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:49 PM EDT

                    M. Jones-3318143 - A lot of them, religious bigots anyway, don't see it as hate.

                    They're exactly like the Mormons and Southern Baptists who thought that mixed-race couples shouldn't be allowed to marry.

                    They're all greedy bigots - they want special rights for themselves which they'd like to deny the people they hate.

                    • 4 votes
                    #12.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:31 PM EDT
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                    That's my state! I'm proud of you, Colorado!

                    We're ALL suppose to be equal under the law. It's about damn time we stop the discrimination of these people.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#13 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:39 PM EDT

                    I find it increasingly disturbing that these small special interest groups keep clammering about being equal, or their civil right, when our political leadership is continually eroding our Bill of Rights, particularly the 2nd, the 4th and the 5th...queers can get married but I can't own a gun, sad, just sad...

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#14 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:49 PM EDT

                    I find it increasingly disturbing that people try to link gay rights and gun laws, since they have nothing to do with each other. All americans having equal rights to marriage, etc., is a good thing, regardless of what is happening with guns.

                    • 8 votes
                    #14.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:51 PM EDT

                    I find it profoundly disturbing that people interpret reasonable regulations of firearms to mean 'coming for all my guns'. Sad, just sad. The 2nd amendment specifically states 'A well regulated militia'.

                    • 9 votes
                    #14.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:54 PM EDT

                    Now that analogy that really makes sense B28....at least for your limited intelligence. It is sad...just sad

                    • 3 votes
                    #14.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:54 PM EDT

                    Yeah, the paranoia is truly disturbing. What a sad way to go through life.

                    • 5 votes
                    #14.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:55 PM EDT

                    I find it increasingly disturbing that people like you have never heard the term "tyranny of the majority", as safeguards against it are fundamental to our form of government and specifically in place so that large majorities can't trample the rights of small minorities.

                    • 7 votes
                    #14.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:19 PM EDT

                    Exactly when did Colorado make it illegal to buy guns anyway?

                    • 5 votes
                    #14.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:47 PM EDT
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                    B-2878793,

                    I find it increasingly disturbing how many ignorant, frighteningly misinformed bigots like you there are in the world.

                    • 4 votes
                    Reply#15 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:52 PM EDT

                    Yay, everyone is equal and @!$%#ty under the law. Yeh stop discrimination. Next if you dont like a restaurant or a theater or anything you'll be labelled a racist, homophobe for not liking the food, the movie whatever. Lets put everybody in jail who discriminates against any and all things living and not. If you discriminate you are evil, even when you choose food, clothes, cars, houses that the majority likes. Colorado is turning into NY City and Californicate. So sad the progressives are polluting us. Next we vote for a Bloomberg type, one step worse than a Hickenpooper

                    • 1 vote
                    Reply#16 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:59 PM EDT

                    well, if you discriminate against gays and deny them equal rights there is a case to be made that you are pollution, if not evil. :)

                    • 5 votes
                    #16.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:02 PM EDT

                    The Islams think we are evil also and want all of us to belivein allah or they will destroy the country.. Think about this vermonfguy!!!!

                      #16.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:06 PM EDT

                      dan: you realize your post makes no sense, dont you?

                      • 7 votes
                      #16.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:41 PM EDT

                      To be quite practical, one of the ways to insure against Sharia law is to grant the GLBT community full rights as citizens. Think of it as a immunization process.

                      • 2 votes
                      #16.4 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:11 AM EDT
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                      Please just keep two guys swaping slobbers off the TV News.. Thank You

                      • 1 vote
                      Reply#17 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:04 PM EDT

                      Yes.. Keep two heterosexuals from slobbering each other on the TV News too. I mean, what kind of a message does that send?

                      • 7 votes
                      #17.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:39 PM EDT
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                      Comment author avatarChestyPullerExpand Comment Comment collapsed by the community

                      I liked the episode of the Sopranos where the gay mobster, Vito, was beaten to death with metal pipes.

                        Reply#18 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:07 PM EDT

                        I bet you did. I am sure it makes you feel more masculine to see a gay person beaten to death. I think they do that in IRAN too, you should consider moving there.

                        • 9 votes
                        #18.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:38 PM EDT

                        chesty is one sick SOB.

                        • 7 votes
                        #18.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:41 PM EDT

                        Yes and remember his "sin" was that he liked it, not that all the guys that when to jail did not do it. Watch that episode again. They got a pass as long as they did not extend their buttocks. What hypocrites.

                        • 1 vote
                        #18.3 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:13 AM EDT
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                        Kind of funny that on the MSN NBC whatever news site the pic with this article about Colorado, gay marriage, twinkies coming, and an article about a broken pre nuptual were all side by side. Just funny, almost like MSN was making an inside joke.

                          Reply#19 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:16 PM EDT

                          Colorado has gone down the dumper!!!

                            Reply#20 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:20 PM EDT

                            yeah, the "freedom dumper". How awful that icky "freedom" is. What do people think this is, the united states of america or something?

                            • 6 votes
                            #20.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:40 PM EDT
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                            Colorado has gone done the dumper since the California liberals arrived!

                            • 2 votes
                            Reply#21 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:20 PM EDT

                            Oly,

                            What are you going to do when the supreme court rules that it's unconstitutional to discriminate against the gay community?

                            • 4 votes
                            #21.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:29 PM EDT

                            You can always move to another country where being gay is a crime. Just about any middle eastern country would love to have you.

                            • 7 votes
                            #21.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:42 PM EDT
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                            So, is a divorce only between a man and a woman? I suppose we'll have to drag that one out for a while. Alimony will be a kicker. Custody battles, social security benefits, sperm donors.... good grief more government on the way.

                            Weren't things better when it was behind closed doors? Thank you Hollywood for bringing this to our attention.

                              Reply#22 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:03 PM EDT

                              Equal rights means equal treatment under the law. Funny how you bigots have such a hard time comprehending that.

                              • 6 votes
                              #22.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:11 PM EDT

                              @Agguy, Lawyers need jobs too. Almost 50% of hetero marriages end in divorce, so should we ban them from marrying?

                              I doubt that there will be many custody battles when a couple cannot biologically reproduce.

                              • 2 votes
                              #22.2 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:09 AM EDT
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                              Looks like Minnesota will be next - marriage equality just passed all the relevant committees in the House and Senate, and moves on to a floor vote in the next few days.

                              Illinois is also about to achieve marriage equality.

                              It'll be interesting to see which states are still clutching tightly to their bigotry when SCOTUS rules in June and makes marriage equality the rule throughout the nation. Those states will be remembered just like the 16 racist southern states are remembered today in regards to mixed-race marriage.

                              • 4 votes
                              Reply#23 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:10 PM EDT

                              One word, sick

                              • 1 vote
                              Reply#24 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:18 PM EDT

                              If you're sick go see a doctor.

                              Sheesh !

                                #24.1 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:36 AM EDT
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                                Colorado legalises marijuana, then morons who are not sure which way a bullet gois into a gun making new gun laws for us, seems like the bycyclists all wear tour de France uniforms, and car drivers have to stay at least 3 feet away from them while they can use the complete road. (and if you pass them they flip you off) what wonderful people have come to this state, UGH. and now the civil unions bill.......what next? and don't tell me to move if I don't like it, because I was here before you and the California Liberals.

                                  Reply#25 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:29 PM EDT

                                  Awww, sing me a sad song............

                                  • 2 votes
                                  #25.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:36 PM EDT

                                  oooh, poor baby, whining about all americans having equal rights. lol.

                                  • 4 votes
                                  #25.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:21 PM EDT
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                                  Still waiting for that non-existent gay gene to be found.

                                    Reply#26 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:29 PM EDT

                                    still waiting for you to google homosexuality and genetics. duh.

                                    for example: "To be specific, the new theory suggests that homosexuality is caused by epigenetic marks, or “epi-marks,” related to sensitivity to hormones in the womb. These are compounds that sit on DNA and regulate how active, or inactive certain genes are, and also control when during development these genes are most prolific

                                    Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2012/12/13/new-insight-into-the-epigenetic-roots-of-homosexuality/#ixzz2NNm35vDq"

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #26.1 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:20 PM EDT

                                    I'm not clear why Obamanation thinks genetics have anything to do with equal rights under the law.

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #26.2 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:26 PM EDT

                                    well, if you can't dispute/disprove/deny an important aspect of the argument, throw up a completely irrelevant point in an attempt to deflect.

                                    He knows he can't win an actual, legitimate, intellectual discussion of freedom and equal rights..so instead he's desperately reduced to posting semi-nonsensical, vague, irrelevant non-points about gays and the posts here...for example, look at his two so far on this page. lol. How lame is that? :)

                                    • 4 votes
                                    #26.3 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:30 PM EDT

                                    Still waiting for that non-existent gay gene to be found.

                                    Still waiting for the straight gene to be found!

                                    He knows he can't win an actual, legitimate, intellectual discussion of freedom and equal rights..so instead he's desperately reduced to posting semi-nonsensical, vague, irrelevant non-points about gays and the posts here

                                    Vermont, that seems to be a recurring theme for most bigots and homophobes.

                                    • 2 votes
                                    #26.4 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:58 PM EDT

                                    "A new theory exists........."

                                    Yep. Thanks Vermont for proving that their is no proof of a gay gene yet.

                                      #26.5 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:29 PM EDT

                                      Yep. Thanks Vermont for proving that their is no proof of a gay gene yet.

                                      Still waiting for you to point out the straight gene!

                                      • 2 votes
                                      #26.6 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:40 PM EDT

                                      It's called the normal state of being human.

                                        #26.7 - Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:41 PM EDT

                                        It's called the normal state of being human.

                                        So is being homosexual. Or bisexual. Or asexual. But thanks for proving there is no straight gene either!

                                        • 2 votes
                                        #26.8 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:28 AM EDT

                                        Obamanation-1101629

                                        Where is the bigot gene? "What is the 'normal' state of being?" Do you DEFINE what it is and then discriminate against everyone else if they don't fit that mold. Oh wait, yes you do, typical republican righty.

                                        P.S. Isn't interesting to know YOUR own party is now crossing over to the 'anti normal' and recognizing that all americans are entitled to equal marriage rights? Poor Clint Eastwood, he must be in favor of the 'anti normal'.

                                        • 4 votes
                                        #26.9 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:07 AM EDT

                                        @ Obamanation...tell us that glorious day you woke up and decided to be straight. If you did, something tells me you might want to pitch or catch for the other team.

                                        • 3 votes
                                        #26.10 - Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:20 AM EDT
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