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Keith Srakocic / Pool via Reuters
Trent Mays, left, and Ma'lik Richmond sit in juvenile court in Steubenville, Ohio, on Friday.
STEUBENVILLE, Ohio -- Teammates of two high school football players from Ohio accused of raping a girl at a party last summer testified on Friday they saw their classmates commit sex acts on the girl during the alcohol-fueled events that night.
A third witness, a friend of the defendants who was also granted immunity, said he saw both defendants making sexual contact with her while she appeared to be passed out, naked and face down on a basement floor.
"She wasn't moving. She wasn't talking. She wasn't participating," said Anthony Craig, 18.
The rape case against Trent Mays, 17, and Ma'lik Richmond, 16, drew national attention to the Ohio steel town of Steubenville, on the West Virginia border and about 40 miles west of Pittsburgh, after a photo and video from the party were posted online.
The computer hacking group Anonymous later publicized the picture of two males carrying the girl by her wrists and ankles and organized protests accusing the town known for its "Big Red" football team of covering up the involvement of more players.
Mark Cole, a teammate granted immunity for his testimony, said he recorded a video of Mays performing the act on the girl during a car ride between houses in Steubenville the night of the party, but deleted it the next morning.
"It was one of those moments when you realize you did something wrong or stupid," Cole said during testimony in which he also said he drank eight to 10 beers that night and his memory of the evening was foggy.
Evan Westlake, who also was granted immunity, testified he saw Richmond commit a sex act on the girl on the basement floor of a house the same night last August.
Mays and Richmond are accused of raping the girl when she was too drunk to move or speak. She told police she did not remember what happened, but reported the incident the next day after she heard details from friends. The boys have denied raping her and say any sex that happened was consensual.
Defense attorneys have questioned whether the witnesses in the case remembered details from the party or were repeating rumors that circulated afterward through their own social groups and from investigators looking into the rape allegations.
Lawyers for the boys say the victim had told friends in advance that she wanted to have sex with the players.
Prosecutors have argued the girl was too drunk to make a decision about her welfare and have introduced as evidence graphic text messages about the party and events afterward and two pictures that were recovered from mobile devices.
The juvenile charges against Mays and Redmond are being heard by visiting Judge Tom Lipps. If convicted, they could be required to stay at a juvenile detention facility until they turn 21 and then register as sex offenders.
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Make the little pervert rapists pay, and shame the town that covers for their holy athletes. Disgusting slice of jock worship.
Amen to that. These disgusting teens should pay big, and their parents hang their heads in shame. The parents would be best served if they moved.
The town's athletics department should pay too, along with all the authorities that covered for the jocks.
Once these two are found guilty, then the school district should take ban this school from the football league for at least one year. These two did the actual crime, but their teammates took part in it if nothing more than watching, taking pictures and not speaking up or not stepping in while this was happening. This would also send a message to that town and those parents that think these boys did nothing wrong. I love my kids, but if they break the law, they pay.
I agree, They knew better, What they had to get a girl that was so wasted she didnt know what was happening? what does that say about the boys? And where was this girls friends at to let them know that they were getting to drunk and should have tried to slow them down. I really thought that this type of behavior with the school and town members covering for the local jocks had quit, guess I was wrong. What if these girls get some kind of infection after all this Im sure clean sex? If they go to jail, Im sure bubba will make them feel right at home! After all they do deserve such attention!
Let's make no mistake. If there were not photographic and video proof of some misdeeds, most people would be on here wishing the girl the worst and calling her all sorts of bad names. Thank God for hackers, I guess.
Wish I had friends that good that would wait til the next day to do something.
What a sad, sad community that has raised their kids to do nothing until after the damage is done. I would be heart broken if I knew my child was aware of someone being assaulted and did nothing.
Today they're raping a drunk teen girl, tomorrow they'd be using date rape drugs as adults, or worse.
Nail them now and make an example out of them.
Rockin Moroccan are you an idiot? So i guess you feel the boys did the morally correct thing by raping this girl? Your statement makes me sick. I hope someday this happens to one of your family members. You are a P.O.S.
So you hope that another woman is raped just so this guy can learn a lesson? Please think before you type.
That's the only way the idiot would get the picture once it gets up close and personal. It's not right AT ALL but I understand.
By the way Truth he/she/it (I think the idiot's the latter) is a troll. Just report it and IT's comments and cowardly online identity will be deleted.
My feelings about rockin moroccan - this is a really sad a**h***.
Where does the blame lie?
Increasing the probability that something bad will happen do you does not make it your fault.
If I go to the store on a Friday night and get killed by a drunk driver, is it my fault because I should have known I was at higher risk of being injured on a Friday night in a car?
If I ride my bike to school instead of drive and get hit by a person on a cell-phone is that my fault for cycling even though I know people text and drive and that this has resulted in deaths of cyclists in the past?
If a mom takes her child to a school function, even though it is flu season, is it her fault if she and her child get sick?
If someone joins the military, despite knowing that going to war increases the risk of death, is it their fault if they are shot or captured?
Everyone can always decide to stay at home and do nothing and go nowhere to eliminate risk in our life. Of course teenagers are more likely to be taken advantage of if they are exceptionally drunk. This doesn't mean that getting drunk means it is their fault if some @!$%# rapes them.
It is the rapists fault!
I don't drink, and I still have been in situations where someone tried to rape me. And I was smelly and wearing camping clothes, and in close proximity of my strong brother. I wasn't asking for it and it wasn't my fault!
Thank you!
What if you get drunk walk into the woods and get eaten by a bear is it the bears fault? What if your so pissed you fall of bridge and die is it the bridges fault? lol
ryan-1853964 -- In both of your scenarios, no one is at fault. Fault implies a breach of duty. The bear owes no duty to anyone. The bridge owes no duty to anyone. The males who raped this girl, however, owed a duty to the girl, and all of us, to not commit acts of rape. They are at fault for having violated this duty. They will now face the consequences, and sadly, receive a lot less time than they deserve. The eyewitness testimony makes it clear they were at fault repeatedly by raping her repeatedly that evening.
Now, I realize that even addressing your stupid comments elevated them about fifty or sixty levels on the logic scale, an elevation they do not deserve, but I a being generous today.
Especially to one as obviously intellectually threadbare as you.
She was slipped GHB, she wasn't drunk she was drugged. Then, when they got her in the car they poured booze down her throat and assaulted her for the first time. Not her fault in any way. The people who planned the rape were known as "The Rape Crew". They had done the same to other girls previously.
Ryan, they will kill the bear, and they will perform facial surgery on the bridge to prevent it from happening again. That's what should happen here, but lucky for the rapists, they live in a civilized society and won't be killed.
People should just wear signs saying they are wanting sex or not. Sign disclaimers so there is no doubt to everyones intentions. And nobody can cry foul.
If you get drunk, around immature adolescent guys, should you get raped? no.
Did you just increase your chances of getting raped? YES. EXPONENTIALLY.
If you ride you bike on a road where teenage drivers are doing 50 mph and texting, should you be hit? no.
Did you just increase your chances? YES. EXPONENTIALLY.
The choice is yours. Limit your risk and you'll find you may live longer and healthier. Fortunately, this girl got some justice, but she will likely never fully recover from her psychological scars. Life ain't fair. Never was. Never will be. Look up Darwin.
Excellent post, Cam314. The fault lies not in the stars but the earth. Except these 'stars' knew the earth could do nothing. Evidence, photo and verbal, are hard to disprove, especially photo.
True!!!
I once drank 20 ounce of cognac (equivalent to 10 beers at least ;-) in 3-4 hours while a a birthday party in the Ukraine (Kiev) (Anyone who goes to parties there will understand...) and I never lost my memory or self control. Actually, walked home 1 mile in a remarkably straight line with friends. Anyone using alcohol as a an excuse of misbehavior should get their ass kicked. They wanted to be dumb and alcohol just gave them a convenient excuse. Yes, I had a very bad hangover the next day, but at least I knew exactly what happened the previous day and I knew I wasn't a criminal moron.
Hey Rockin, you're gene pool is showing. You need to shut the hell up.
Eyetoeye - you have to forgive rockin moroccan because the only sex he/she has ever had is self inflicted. Too much and you wind up with a philosophy that is beyond help. Rockin moroccan will always have hands to satisfy sick thoughts.
You also have to realize that Morocco is an extremely male dominated society. I have a friend from Morocco who has told me horror stories of growing up there, seeing things happen to women that were inhuman by western standards. I'm not defending the moron, but even though I find his trollish remarks disgusting and offensive, I pity him. More than likely, he was indoctrinated into his misogynistic beliefs from birth and it will be very difficult, if not impossible, for him to ever overcome them and join the rest of the human race, who believe that rape is a deplorable act instead of the right of a man.
Morocco is not a society, in the strictest sense. As evidenced by the sad clown who keeps walking down the sidewalk here, ranting and exposing himself, so to speak.
Somebody get ahold of his parents and have them take him home.
Hey Keira, you have a significant alcohol problem. If I had done that, I would be out for 2 days. Anyone who abuses alcohol like you and wants a liver transplant later should "get their ass kicked"
These two guys should be prosecuted as adults and get twenty years each. In the Heart of Dixie Richmond would have already been dragged, hanged and shot. Another words we'd have justice. Treating these guys as juveniles has to be the most outrageous crime against a woman this century and proves beyond a doubt that women are losing equality and justice in America. Shoot....this keeps up women will be back to secondary citizenship within a decade. Unless women start doing something to regain their rights, women like our Miss Jane Doe will find themselves waking up in mental institutions without any teeth for suspicion of being drunk in public.
These "two" guys should be convicted and sent to PRISON, not some juvi facility. Let THEM be raped REPEATEDLY. The girl should not have gotten so drunk, and she will probably never drink again, but her attackers should be punished. The "group" allowing it to happen should be prosecuted also, not given immunity. They ALL ARE SCUM EITHER WITH THE GIRL'S JUICES ON THEIR BODIES OR BY JUST WATCHING AND "EGGING" THEM ON! 50 YEARS AT HARD LABOR SHOULD BE THE SENTENCE FOR THEM ALL!!!!!
What it is to be a man? Here are these two guys, both young men, and my question is who is teaching them to be men. One is a quarterback on the football team, I thought that the quarterback was a leadership position. I guess it's a question of do the right thing. Seeing a weaker person incapable of taking care of themselves, some might try and say "how can help this person", which would be a manly thing to do. The quarterback might say "this person is hurt let's help, follow me". But these guy are at the opposite end of the human spectrum. There are more like animals. "Look a weak helpless person, let's go get her!!" What the hell kind of place is this. Who is teaching these kids how to be men, and to do the right thing, I guess nobody. What was that movie, Lord of the Flies?
And who will be the ones to subdue these so called criminals and arrest them. My guess it would be male cops. Women want to talk equality all day long but when there is problems they expect men to handle them with other men. And by the way there is 90,000 men raped each year compared to 40,000 women where is the justice for these guys nobody cares only bad if it happens to a woman.
Ryan, what century are you living in? There ARE female cops, judges, and prison guards. Women would do just find dragging their ass to jail.
They committed an adult crime and have to sentenced as adults. This bs about being juveniles is ludicrous. How can their defense attornies even look at them?
Really taziar There are not many women who can take down a 300 pound man with anything short of a gun. Its a joke and we have to be honest. On the movie end of watch takes place in L.A shows what happens to a female confronting a 300 pound mexican not a pretty sight. We have to face humans like animals are not created equal men to men woman to woman man to woman it doesnt matter there will always be those on top its just evolution.
I have been following this case since I found about it. A few days after the incident I met Jane Doe's parents. Come to find out that our families have know each other for years. Looking at the pain in the parents faces was heart breaking.
The parents were the ones who found out about the posts on Twitter and Youtube and Instragram. A friend called them to tell them. Put yourself in their shoes. Can you even begin to imagine what they are going through.
I did a lot of partying in my heyday and yes there have been drunken nights that i did not recall. What these kids did this girl is unspeakable. The kids that stood by and did nothing should hang their heads in shame.
No woman asks to be sexually molested! I speak from experience.
Jane Does' family has been through hell. When I spoke with the parents I advised them to get her into counselling right away. Which they have. How do you deal with something you can not remembeer?
The people that watched this incident should be punished also. They should hang their heads in shame.
Nobody deserves what happened to this girl! No one!
Good post and I agree that the s***h***s who took pics should also be prosecuted. No bs about immunity, or plea bargains for them.
The parents of these two should hang their heads in shame. They have done a worse than lousy job of rearing these two. They did not teach them morals or responsibility. Instead they taught them entitlement, " you are a football superstar so you are entitled." What kind of parents allow their sons at that age to stay out all night and come home drunk. The parents should be charged with child endangerment since they care so little for their sons. As for the boys they need time in prison where they will learn that all actions have consequences, something their parents failed to teach them. As for the friends, they have nothing to be proud of, they are just as bad for not stepping in and stopping the idiots. Why wasn't the football coach whose home this took place in not arrested and charged. There is just too much emphasis placed on sports and sports heroes.
As should the parents of the girl and all others involved.
These Kids should admit their guilt and ask mercy from the court, The argument they are using is poor. The evidence is overwhelming. There are so many things wrong with this story. Drinking at a coaches house, Minors with alcohol, The friends of everybody standing by and letting this occur. Posting pictures to the internet. Over 350,000 texts. and on and on. Three young adults have had their live ruined. Teenage drinking kill more kids than anything else.
I certainly knew by the age of 16 that, if I encountered a person who was in a state, for any reason, that this person could not take care of himself, that I should step in and care and look out for that person until he or she was well enough to care for him- or herself. I knew not to take advantage of that person in any way, by sexually molesting him, taking money or jewelry from him, or anything else. I knew to seek help. The parents, the religious institutions, the schools, the coaches, and everyone else who has influenced these boys' lives MUST do some soul-searching and figure out why these boys did not learn this fundamental lesson to begin with, and somehow learned that it was acceptable to take advantage of a person not in full control of herself, or, indeed, unconscious. This is far too disgusting for words, and it has not been the first case by far! What are we teaching???!!!
They should definitely be tried as adults. Juvenile prison is like kiddy camp and the laws do no allow juveniles to be treated as inmates. These young men should be punished severely for their heinous acts. Serving adult time would do some justice. As a matter of fact, victims of juvenile inmates would be irate if they saw just how easily juvenile offenders have it. Not to mention it is much cheaper for us tax payers to send criminals to the adult system than the juvenile system.
When found guilty they will go to jail - juvie to adult facilities. Then the thing that will affect them, when they are released after a good number of years, is being labelled SEX OFFENDER. Will show up on their drivers' licenses, and they will, depending on the jurisdiction, be visited periodically by Sex Offenders Detectives. Live with that a**h***s.
In my youth, I often drank with friends both male and female. Sometimes I got stupid drunk, sometimes they did but we trusted each other. This young woman thought the people around her were her friends and she trusted them. How was she to know that they were not worthy of that trust, that they would treat her lower than an animal? These young men truly believe they did nothing wrong; they have no conscience, no sense of honor, no character, no morality. They will most likely never suffer the pains human beings do when their conscience beats them up over wrong doing. Since they will not endure the shame having a conscience would inflict, I sincerely hope they suffer whatever other agonies the judicial system can lay on them. As for Jane Doe, God Help You Honey. I hope that someday you can heal and that eventually you are able to trust someone again. As for roccin morracin~ a young woman among friends who drinks to excess should absolutely expect to take responsibiltiy for her actions but taking that responsibility means she should expect a hangover. A few sick days. It is NOT her responsibility if her trust is betrayed and she is victimized by men she thought would care for her, respect her and protect her as a quality, human being man would. These boys are not human. They are lower than animals. Their families should be ashamed, their community should be ashamed and their coaches who endorsed, encouraged and facilitated the barbaric behavior should be ashamed.
Excellent comment! This animalistic behavior is more prevalent than I could ever imagine. It seems the Golden Rule has been long forgotten...
Personally, I think who ever supplied the alcohol to these high school minors facilitated the sexual abuse. If no drinking was involved this probably would never have happened. I think all 3 of them should have alcohol counseling.
High school football players have quite a sense of entitlement and I doubt they have any sense of guilt for what they have done. That doesn't mean they should be registered as sex offenders. But they should be punished for their behavior, but on some lesser charge than rape.
If this was a drunk driving accident, or some other mis-judgement related event, I would agree with you. But these kids intentionally committed a heinous crime. While I don't think the sex offender registry should even exist, these kids should be charged with rape. Because that is what they did.
Whoa, hold on there! You are saying that because they have feelings of entitlement we should continue to "entitle" them by not charging them with the crime they are guilty of? Which is rape, that's RAPE in case you don't understand. It's thinking like yours that contributes to athletes having this they're "above the law" attitude.
Truly tragic - and yet living in a college town, these 'incidents' are NOT uncommon. HOWEVER, whenever alcohol is thrown into the equation by all participants, problems are nearly a certainty! Parents should teach their kids personal responsibility for BOTH sexes (i.e., letting your daughter know of the dangers that can happen with heavy drinking - and not to allow themselves to get to that point). Teach your sons it is NEVER OK to take advantage of women NO MATTER WHAT if they wish to stay out of trouble. I am NOT blaming this young girl for what happened but, and let's be honest - would this have happened if she hadn't been drinking to the point of passing out? Why wasn't anyone else there willing to step in and defend this poor girl? Seems to me there are too many young folks today who either ONLY care about themselves and/or NO sense when it comes to personal responsibility! What a bunch of selfish, worthless jerks there that evening!
Exactly.
She was drugged.
Den O'synn. link please. I saw this story on 20/20 or some such and according to all reports given the girl was penetrated with the fingers of both boys. According to her states law, this is defined as rape. there were multiple accounts of the girl drinking heavily, mixing liquors and traveling to several parties the course of the night. With all the true incidents of actual rape this case seems to be a tad ridiculous imo. Not devaluing her experience which she cant even remember but it seems to be a case of wrong choices rather than malicious intent. No evidence of her being drugged.
From the fact that she recalls nothing (when you drink you usually recall something) it looks like she was drugged with the Date Rape pill. It is known that its use in rampant among high school and even jr hs athletes. The drug only stays in the system for about 12 hours so don't know if they can still detect it. The girl should not be blamed.
Full prision sentences for all of these jerks, including the rat (Cole the Second) that is supposed to have immunity. Cole, Mays and Richmond are all sexual deviants and should be locked away for a very long time.
....okay....
first of all i would like to say that everyone (reporters mainly) needs to stop using the term "friend" in reference to the people who knew this girl personally. they have been saying things like "friends of the alleged victim have stated that when she left the party she appeared to be overly intoxicated and that when they tried to stop her from leaving with the two boys she stated that she was 'ok'."
seriously, i don't know what kind of friends these people were but as a female there is no way in hell i would allow my FRIEND to leave a party drunk off her ass with two dudes from the football team, are you kidding me?! what in the hell did they think was going to happen to her.
when my girlfriends and i get drunk we don't allow anyone to leave with someone when it's clear that my friend isnt in the right state of mind to make healthy choices. i would have dragged her drunk ass out of the house and gotten her safely home, not just turn around and let her leave with a grip of dudes.
and as for the massive amount of people that saw the assault happen, and the even larger amount of people that were texting back and forth while it was happening, all of their parents need to really sit down and think about how they are raising their son or daughter. the very fact that over 350,000 text messages were discovered between these kids and it took 3 days after the incident for the parents to find out what happened and nearly 10 days after the incident for the cops to start really investigating tells me that something is seriously wrong. you mean to tell me that not one of the kids at this party and the second house had morals? none of them thought "hey, shes not awake or she's super drunk, this is wrong, i should probably tell them to stop, or call the police or even threaten to call the police" tells me that there is something severely wrong with the way kids are being raised and taught in this town.
i honestly can not wrap my mind around how the Parents of the victim (how were not present for the assault) were the ones that had to go to collect what evidence they could from social media site and take it to the authorities, not one of the party goers found in necessary, during the incident or the morning after when they all woke up and read over the text messages or looked at the picture's or looked at the video, to call the police or tell one of their parents? what the hell!? some of these kids even deleted their text messages and the photo's and video without a single thought of getting justice for this girl.
I've read multiple things about this and from what i can gather they not only digitally raped her (on multiple occasions in multiple locations) but apparently they also urinated on her, and penetrated her in all three of her useable orifices (i'm trying really hard not to be graphic about it... that's the best i could do) all the kids, either by way of there physical presence as it was happening or by way of social media or text message SAW this happen to her, and not one of them said anything to their own parents or the authorities?! they deleted the evidence from their phones and moved on with their lives?! it makes no sense at all to me...
I have seen a couple of the text message's and the two boys do not seem worried or even a little bit remorseful about what they did, they were cracking jokes about it and assuring inquiring friends that the cops were not going to do anything because their coach handled it.... off of this alone i think that it is beyond an insult that they are being tried as minors and not as adults. those two boys made a very ADULT decision to RAPE a nearly or completely unconscious girl, videotape it, and brag about it.... WHY ARE THEY NOT BEING CHARGED AS ADULTS!
one of them is only 1 year shy of being 18, how in the hell did the courts come to the decision to try them in the juvenile court system???????
IT IS NOT OKAY TO HAVE SEX WITH SOMEONE WHEN THEY ARE DRUNK AND UNABLE TO CONSENT OR PARTICIPATE IN THE ACT!
it's that freaken simple, it's black and white, there should be no argument on this matter, and it my eyes this should be a damn open and shut case, they have the text messages, they have the statements from eye witnesses they have the photo's, what the hell is there to debate?!
They Raped Her.
im having two major issues with this case though...
the first being:
what exactly were the two boys planning to do with and about the girl after they were down? (<_<)... i just dont understand... they recorded what they did, and multiple people saw them doing it, so what were they planning to do to get away with it? were they just going to redress her and take her home and act like nothing happen? i mean with the assault being recorded and posted on the internet didnt they know they would get caught? are they that dim-witted that they thought that they were above the law and nothing would come of it? or was it the entitlement of being a star football player in a town where the only thing good that they have going for them is football?
The second issue i'm having is actually a two part issue. The first part is with the girls parents... dont shoot me, but... i find myself wondering why these parents didnt instill a better moral compass in this girl, i only say this because i was in high school 5 years ago and i know for a fact that there is no way in hell i would have put myself in a situation where i was so drunk that someone was able to climb on-top of me and rape me, getting drugged would have been the only way that i would have let that happen, because my mother taught me better. she taught me that if im drinking that come hell or high water i should never allow myself to be left alone with the male gender even if that guy is someone i know, not to mention she taught me never to get excessively drunk in public...
point being, to this day as a 26 year old i will never and have never allowed myself to be alone with a male if i'm drunk enough to not be able to walk by myself or speak without slurring all my words. not to mention the fact that my FRIENDS would not allow me to leave with a guy if i was plastered (i've actually had a friend drag me out of a house party by my hair after finding me drunk and making-out with some random dude, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT FRIENDS DO! and i thanked her the next day because i remembered that i was drunk and once i was sober i knew i wouldn't have wanted what would have happened had my friend not shown up).
Long story short, this whole case is disgusting, these two boys are disgusting, all the kids that knew what was happening and didnt say anything about it or to stop it are disgusting, all the adults in this community that allowed this to happen and go unpunished are disgusting, and the fact that they will either be free if they win the case or free at the age of 21 and no longer is DISGUSTING.
i do hope that this case will be a lesson to high school and college girls though, i hope they pay attention and start to realize the danger that they put themselves in when they attend these parties and throw caution to the wind by getting intoxicated to the point where you can't even say yes or no. because this needs to stop happening and we need to teach our kids better moral's because at the end of the day it takes two.
....assuming that the date rape drug isn't involved....
It takes the victim; to knowingly and willingly consume enough alcohol, at a public or private gathering, to impair their judgement or render themselves unable to coherently think and communicate
AND
the perpetrator; to ignore all moral rationale, humanity and respect for women for this to happen. So let this be a lesson to all the female's and parents out there.
Females, unfortunately we need to be on better guard and make better choices (not to say that all men are bad, or that all men want to hurt us, but we have to always be aware and prepared for the ones that do).
And Parents need to teach their daughters this and teach their sons to respects women, to respect life, to respect ones right to a choice.
No one is entitled to anything, and everyone really and truly needs to learn how to respect his/her fellow man/woman, what happened in this community is appalling and im sure that the town is full of plenty of good decent people, but its obvious that something is wrong, this should not have happened.....
They expected to get away with it, because they had gotten away with it before.
its disturbing, but i have to accept that you're probably right about that.... in one of the picture's from the courtroom Richmond was smiling and Mays looked like he didn't have a care in the world, their body language said it all to me.....
if i was on trial for rape and i was worried about it i would not be able to crack a single smile and i most definitely wouldn't be able to sit back in a relaxed position in my chair, that's for sure.
The girl was drugged with the date rape drug before she even had a chance to decide to drink or not. These boys didn't want to spend all night waiting for her to get really drunk, they had other plans for her, and needed her incapacitated as soon as possible.
correction i was in high school 9 years ago... wow it doesn't feel like its been that long.... anyway, point being i dont think much has changed culturally...
I graduated high school 26 years ago. In 1989, a mentally challenged girl was gang-raped by a bunch of high school jocks (footballers)-- ever hear of Glen Ridge, NJ? There is a movie and a book based on this true story. The movie "Our Guys: Outrage at Glen Ridge" is eerily similar to Steubenvile. Check it out on imdb.
and here is a quote from a reviewer of that movie:
Sounds like Steubenville, Ohio.
I think the correlation between jocks and rape is more than coincidental, and no, not much has changed in that culture (football).
All a farce since it is in juvenile. Sad to say this may be a mildly satisfying case with no lasting effects on society. The guys may lose a few years in prison, but will walk out with relatively clean slates. If you can't laugh at how big of a joke this entire ordeal is then I will laugh for you. Bleh.
No, this will follow them throughout their lives-- if they are convicted. I'm not positive, but I believe that once a person is registered as a sex offender, they will always be a registered sex offender, and they are supposed to register in whatever town or state they move to.
I kind of wish sex offenders had to have it tattooed across their forehead so that the public is warned when people like these two are out and about. I can only hope that, convicted or not, these two have learned that it is not OK to molest a female, ever, but especially when she has been drinking. They are good-looking fellows and I can imagine that (if convicted) once they complete their sentences they might go to a bar and possibly victimize another woman.
Rapists and, most especially, Pedophiles should have their foreheads tatooed (since we can't just put them down).
Some of these girls don't even respect themselves,so how do they expect to be respected?And I'm not sayig that it's her fault.
What does self-respect have to do with being the victim of a crime?
Shari ~~~~>> >> >> I disagree with you. You are sayng it is her fault !!!
It's obvious that she was given the Date Rape Pill (just like Natalee in Aruba). She's not to blame.
Alcohol has never made anyone do anything. Rather, alcohol allows you to do the things you already wanted to do.
This article reads and smells like buyer's remorse.
Exactly, alcohol doesn't turn you into a monster unless there is already a monster lurking within. That monster is the parents responsibility, and obviously they failed
There is a bit of monster in everyone.
In any event, potential football careers are now ''kaput.'' If convicted, the stigma of having to register as sex offenders will follow them like their own shadows no matter where they go (North Korea, Somalia, Sudan, et.al) notwithstanding.
Very tragic . Sad to see so many that did not have the parental guidance that would have prevented it. One other thing and this troubles on a lesser level. Will there be a second court case to charge those that provide beer to underage children? 3 young lives are forever changed and the whole town needs to ask why and how.
Funny how this is not addressed. How are we to discourage underage drinking if there are no consequences for the kids to be drinking or the adults supplying it?
Hope those boys are found guilty. How the heck can you prove any type of innocence when she's drunk and passed out like that and claim she consented to having sex. I agree that the people at that party should have stopped it, they are just as guilty and disgusting for letting it happen.
Rape.
The rapists need to do time. The coach and chief of police who tried to cover this up need to do time. The citizens who have tried to protect these rapists need to do time.