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  • 12
    Jul
    2012
    4:33pm, EDT

    Confidence in organized religion hits all-time low in Gallup poll

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    By Jason White, msnbc.com

    Americans' confidence in religious institutions has hit an all-time low, with only 44 percent expressing a "great deal" of confidence in organized religion, according to a new Gallup survey.


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    This follows a downward trend since the 1970s, when 68 percent of Americans had a high degree of confidence.

    Gallup cites two big blows to confidence in organized religion: 1980s scandals involving televangelists like Jim Bakker and the Catholic sex abuse scandal in the 2000s. 


    Perhaps as an outgrowth of the abuse scandal, Catholics lag far behind Protestants in their confidence in the church, by a margin of 10 percentage points.

    But the scandals of recent decades, and the ensuing lack of confidence in organized religion, are not necessarily affecting the importance of religion in peoples' lives, Gallup finds.

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    "While various sex abuse scandals involving U.S. clerics have likely played a role in Americans' growing skepticism about the church and organized religion, the decline in confidence does not necessarily indicate a decline in Americans' personal attachment to religion," writes Lydia Saad of Gallup. "The percentage of Americans saying religion is very important in their lives has held fairly steady since the mid-1970s, after dropping sharply from 1952 levels."

    It's also worth noting that organized religion is far from the only institution in which Americans are losing confidence. Americans also are souring on schools, banks and television news, according to Gallup's survey.

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    2298 comments

    Perhaps churches should stick to saving souls and helping the old, sick and needy instead of getting involved in politics? It might help.

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  • 3
    Jul
    2012
    3:30pm, EDT

    Connecticut priest arrested on child pornography charges

    Alaine Griffin / The Hartford Courant

    The Rev. Dennis Carey, left, speaks Tuesday after his arraignment at the Superior Court in New London, Conn. At right is his lawyer, Ron Stevens.

    By NBCConnecticut.com and msnbc.com staff

    A Connecticut priest arraigned Tuesday on child pornography possession charges says he is getting help for his addiction to the illegal material.


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    The Rev. Dennis Carey, 65, was released on $100,000 bond, NBCConnecticut.com reported. He was ordered to have no computer or Internet access, no pornography and no contact with anyone under age 13.

    Carey resigned Friday as pastor of St. Paul in Chains Church in Waterford after the Catholic diocese in Norwich learned police were investigating him.


    His lawyer, Ron Stevens, said Carey was viewing pornography on the Internet and did not have inappropriate contact with children. Carey was scheduled to meet with his psychiatrist Tuesday afternoon, Stevens said, adding that his client has no prior record.

    Stevens told The Day newspaper in New London that Carey was staying in “another church location,” but did not elaborate.

    On May 29, the Police Department Internet Crimes Against Children Taskforce in Los Angeles contacted the Connecticut State Police computer crimes task force for help with an investigation into suspected child pornography sent using an AOL email account.

    On Thursday, state troopers and the Waterford Police Department executed a search warrant at the St. Paul Parish Rectory, seized items and applied for an arrest warrant for Carey.

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    Carey turned himself in to state police in Montville on Tuesday morning, Stevens told The Day.

    State police say Carey had at least 338 files of suspected child pornography on two laptops, two tower computers and two external drives that state police seized from the church rectory, The Day reported.

    The 275 picture files and 63 video files contain images of boys and girls under 16 engaged in sexually explicit acts, according to state police.

    Carey was ordained a priest in 1998 after a 25-year career as a certified public accountant in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, according to the diocese.

    Bishop Michael R. Cote said he and Carey became aware of the investigation on Thursday.

    On Tuesday, Cote issued a statement obtained by The Day:

    “We, along with everyone else, will wait to see how the legal process unfolds and to learn the details of the investigation. These allegations are extremely serious and run contrary to everything we believe as a Church. To exploit children in that fashion is absolutely reprehensible. We pray the allegations are not true.

    “This is a sad moment for all of us. We always hope we will never again hear about any investigations or allegations of misconduct by priests. For the parish community, for the priests of the diocese, and for me personally, it is extremely difficult. We are all saddened and deeply hurt.”

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    A priest with kiddie porn is kind of like saying a fat kid had a cupcake.

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  • 7
    Jun
    2012
    3:17pm, EDT

    2 dead, others wounded at funeral near Atlanta

    By Isolde Raftery, msnbc.com

    Updated at 7:40 p.m. ET: Minutes after Pastor Kenneth Samuel finished a eulogy about how life is fleeting, shots broke out in the church parking lot. Two people were confirmed dead; their identities were not released. Two or three others were injured, police told msnbc.com, although it was unclear whether those wounded were shot.

    About 500 people had come to Victory Church in Stone Mountain, Ga., on Thursday afternoon for the funeral of Ryan Guider, 19, of Decatur, who was killed May 26.


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    As they filed out, Samuel went to his office to change his shirt before heading to the burial site. Minutes later, the area erupted into chaos.  


    “The first thing I thought to myself was, ‘My God, was anybody listening to what I was trying to say?’” Samuel said. “I think many people were. Unfortunately, not enough. The police told me even the shooter might have been in the service.”

    DeKalb County spokeswoman Mekka Parish said police were trying to figure out what prompted the shooting.

    "With hundreds of people there it quickly became a chaotic scene," she said.

    Police initially believed that Marcus D. Ventress, who is suspected of killing Guider, was among the dead. Ventress allegedly killed Guider in retaliation for punching Ventress's mother during a home invasion. It has been confirmed that he was not among the dead, and it is unclear whether he was at the funeral, Parish said.

    U.S. Marshals and DeKalb County Sheriff’s Deputies had been looking for Ventress in connection with Guider’s death. They told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution that Ventress is also suspected of shooting into an apartment, looking for Guider.

    Five or six people are at the DeKalb County Sheriff headquarters for questioning, Parish said. 

    "Something of this nature is not a common occurrence," Parish said. Top police officials met with the pastor of the church and planned to hold a forum to discuss the violence, she said.

    "These are individuals who know each other, but it appears to be spilling out into a public forum," she said. "This is not a situation of individuals firing in the crowd."

    Pastor Samuel, who founded the church 25 years ago, said other members of his congregation have lost their sons to violence. But a shooting after a funeral left him stunned and saddened.

    “We’re at the point now where the sanctity of the gathering means nothing to people,” he said.

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    So, one thug (thug 1) got whacked because he stole another thugs (thug 2) stuff, including jewelry, money and drugs, and while he stole that stuff from thug2 he smacked the thug2s mother. (Per the story on the link trust-verify provided in post #4.) At the funeral for thug1 that got whacked, the oth …

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  • 22
    May
    2012
    4:26pm, EDT

    Charles Worley, North Carolina pastor, faces backlash, outrage over call for gays to be put behind electric fence

    Anthea Butler, associate professor of Religious Studies at the University of Pennsylvania, joins The Last Word to discuss the violent rhetoric coming from churches on marriage equality.

    By James Eng, NBC News

    A North Carolina church pastor’s call for gays and lesbians to be fenced in so they can eventually die off has triggered outrage among gay-rights and anti-hate groups, with one local citizens organization planning a protest in response.


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    The Catawba Valley Citizens Against Hate said it was organizing a peaceful protest against Pastor Charles Worley on Sunday in front of Providence Road Baptist Church just outside Maiden, N.C., “to tell the world that hate is not welcome in our community.”


    The group said the protest would be “in the ideals of Dr. Martin Luther King and Gandhi.”

    “We will not scream, shout or taunt Pastor Worley or his church’s members,” it said on its Facebook page.

    The protest organizer, Laura Tipton, who lives in nearby Hickory, N.C., said she's gotten a tremendous outpouring of support and now expects "400 or more" people to attend.

    "I think the message needs to get out, especially because this is a North Carolina church and North Carolina has gotten a very bad rap," Tipton told msnbc.com. "I think it's important that people know that not all of us feel this way, that there is support for the LGBT community in this state."

    Worley’s Mother’s Day sermon suggesting that “lesbians and queers” should be rounded up to die off touched off a firestorm after a video of it was posted on YouTube this week by the Catawba Valley citizens group.

    The 71-year-old Worley delivered the sermon on May 13, apparently in response to President Barack Obama’s public endorsement a few days earlier of same-sex marriage. Just a day before Obama’s announcement, North Carolina voters approved by a considerable margin a constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage and same-sex civil unions in their state.

    In the sermon, an animated Worley told the congregation of his independent Baptist church:

    “I figured a way out, a way to get rid of all the lesbians and queers but I couldn’t get it pass the Congress – build a great big large fence, 50 or a hundred mile long. Put all the lesbians in there, fly over and drop some food. Do the same thing with the queers and the homosexuals. And have that fence electrified so they can’t get out.

    And you know what? In a few years they will die out. You know why? They can’t reproduce. If a man ever has a young'un, praise God he will be the first.”

    Worley continued, his voice rising: “I tell ya right now, somebody said, 'Who you gonna vote for?' I ain’t gonna vote for a baby killer and a homosexual lover! You said, ‘Did you mean to say that?’ You better believe I did!”

    Worley could not be reached for comment on Tuesday. Calls to the church office rang busy.

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    The church, which is not related to the better-known Providence Baptist Church of Charlotte, originally placed the video on its website but later removed it.  The website could not be accessed for much of Tuesday, possibly due to server overload.

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    Gay-rights supporters and others were quick to denounce Worley.

    "I am not part of LGBT community. I am an ally, a heterosexual," said Tipton, a social work student at Appalachian State University. "Whether you are straight or gay, people need to stand up against these messages of hate."

    An online petition started by Adam Eyster of Los Angeles called for Worley to step down as pastor.

    “This is hands down one of the MOST offensive things I have heard in my time of the LGBT rights movement,” Eyster wrote.

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    Another petition started by Robert Hare of Jacksonville, Fla., urged state and federal prosecutors to charge Worley with “inciting to commit mass murder”:

    "Freedom of speech or religion is one thing, but when you are exhorting people to 'help in the effort to find the best way of killing every gay person on the planet' you have clearly taken a giant step across the line."

     And in a post on MadMikesAmerica, blogger Erin Nanasi wrote:

    “Pastor Charles Worley is yet another argument for the abolishment of religion. The evil that pervades the minds and hearts of some of the holiest of the holy, the preachers, priests, reverends and pastors will sicken the most hardy among us and the evil that is Charles Worley stains Christians everywhere, but particularly the congregation of the Providence Road Baptist Church, who applaud the venom that spews from the mouth of this monstrous man."

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    well isnt that special.

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  • 20
    May
    2012
    10:08pm, EDT

    Fellow activists express disbelief at arrest of NATO summit bomb plot suspects

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    Photo of bomb plot suspect Brent Betterly, 24, taken by a fellow Occupy protester in Fort Lauderdale, Fla.

    By Thomas Francis, Special to msnbc.com

    Friends of three activists charged with plotting to hurl firebombs during the NATO Summit in Chicago reacted for the most part with disbelief Sunday, saying that the arrests appear to be an effort to undermine peaceful protest.

    Brent Betterly, 24, Brian Jacob Church, 20, and Jared Chase, 24, were charged Saturday with a terrorist conspiracy to firebomb four Chicago police stations, the home of Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel and President Barack Obama’s local campaign headquarters.

    Stephanie Auguiste, a 25-year-old from Hollywood, Fla., met all three of the alleged bombers through Occupy Fort Lauderdale, a Florida offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street movement. She said the police description of the trio as violent anarchists didn’t match the young men she knew.


    Courtesy Stephanie Auguiste

    Stephanie Auguiste, 25, met all three of the alleged firebomb plotters through Occupy protests in Florida.

    She said that when she spoke with Betterly by phone last week about his time in Chicago, “He was telling me how local police officers were harassing them a lot and how they were pretty violent toward protesters. “ Betterly was “shocked” by the aggressive tactics but didn’t give Auguiste any indication that he was planning to strike back with force, she said.  

    Auguiste also said she found it hard to believe that Church -- who she knew by his middle name, Jacob -- is the same person described in charging documents as remarking about the sight of a “cop on fire.” Rather, she remembers Church as a soft-spoken artist who liked making still-life sketches and opposed the National Defense Authorization Act on constitutional grounds.

    “He’s not the kind of person who had the desire to commit violent acts toward anyone,” Auguiste said of Church. “He believed in peaceful protest.”

    Both Church and Betterly had lived in South Florida. Their friend, Chase, was from New Hampshire. Auguiste said she only met him once but found him to be “extremely friendly, very warm.”

    Chase and Betterly have had brushes with the law. According to a Reuters report, Chase was charged with attempt to commit assault and reckless endangerment in June 2003, after he pulled a knife in a fight with another man. The report also detailed an incident a month later where Chase was in another fight, after which he hit a man with his car. The man wasn’t injured, but Chase was reportedly found guilty of assault.

    (Chase’s uncle, Michael Chase of Westmoreland, N.H., told the Union-Leader newspaper that his nephew had only become politically active when the Occupy Wall Street protests bloomed. Of the charges, he said, “Seems outrageous and completely out of character for him. … He’s no angel. He’s not happy with the economy. Nobody is.”)

    Last October Betterly was charged for burglary of an unoccupied structure, grand theft and criminal mischief when after a night of drinking, he and two friends broke into an Oakland Park, Fla., school to swim in the pool, according to the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Those felony charges are still pending. 

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    Olivia Ferguson, 36, of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., said she believes the charges against Betterly "about as much as I believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy."

    Olivia Ferguson, 36, said she often shared a tent with Betterly on the plaza adjoining the Fort Lauderdale City Hall during the Occupy protests. An electrician, Betterly would sometimes visit the encampment overnight after having worked 16 hours that same day, she said.

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    “I believe Brent is a terrorist about as much as I believe in Santa Claus and the tooth fairy,” said Ferguson, from Fort Lauderdale. Recalling Betterly’s fondness for drinking, she believes that the home-brewing kit allegedly being used to make Molotov cocktails was probably just for making beer. Recalling his blond dreadlocks and goofy charm, Ferguson said she gave Betterly the nickname “Spicoli,” after Sean Penn’s party hearty character in “Fast Times at Ridgemont High.”

    At one Occupy Fort Lauderdale meeting in October led by Ferguson and Betterly, a man in the group spoke up to advocate more forceful forms of protest – spray-painting and property destruction. “Brent and I said absolutely not,” Ferguson said. “We were totally against that.”

    Another Occupy activist, Mike Howson, 25, said he was “really surprised” to see Betterly’s name surface in connection with a terrorist act. “Like most of us, there were political things you’d bitch about, but he didn’t seem like the kind of guy who would actually go through with something like that.”

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    Mike Howson, 25, of Sunrise, Fla., said Betterly "didn't seem like the kind of guy who would actually go through with something like that."

    Howson, who resides in Sunrise, Fla., remembered Church being more reserved than the outgoing Betterly-- the type who “observes before he interacts with people.”

    One activist who met Betterly and Church in Florida, and spoke about them on condition of anonymity, was not as surprised as their other fellow protesters, saying they were more inclined than most to push the limits of peaceful protest, 

    “Jacob (Church) was immature and he was angry -- that’s a dangerous combination,” the activist said. 

    The same activist was more surprised that Betterly was implicated in the plot, but recalled his increasing frustration when the Fort Lauderdale movement cleared out its camp in December.

    “He went to Washington, D.C. for that national Occupy convention,” said the activist. “He then stayed near McPherson Square, and I can only surmise that he became somewhat radicalized by people he met there, because when he was here he was very much committed to nonviolence.”

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    Evan Rowe said suspect Brent Betterly "didn't seem to have a coherent ideological motivation, but he was tactically eager to pursue actions which might get him arrested in the pursuit of the Occupy cause."

    Evan Rowe, 34, who met Betterly through Occupy Fort Lauderdale, answered questions via email. “Brent was always super-eager and hard core,” he said. “He didn’t seem to have a coherent ideological motivation, but he was tactically eager to pursue actions which might get him arrested in the pursuit of the Occupy cause.”

    In Rowe’s opinion, the arrests were a “public relations exercise” by law enforcement agencies that need to invent sophisticated terrorist plots to justify their out-sized budgets, he said.

    In a statement to reporters Saturday, Cook County State’s Attorney Anita Alvarez said that the investigation of the NATO bombing plot had been going on for weeks and that the Chicago Police detectives were assisted by the FBI and U.S. Secret Service. Alvarez called the men “domestic terrorists” who had come to Chicago “to hurt people.”

    Kris Hermes, a spokesman for the National Lawyers Guild, which is representing the three accused bombers, said Sunday that prosecutors have yet to show evidence to support police claims of terrorist acts. “This is a direct attempt to stifle protest and to turn the public opinion against peaceful protesters.”

    Defense attorneys hope to learn more about the state’s case at a court hearing Tuesday. “We strongly believe that undercover cops in this case were manufacturing crimes,” said Hermes. “They were provoking these guys to do things that they would not have otherwise done -- and it’s not even clear that they did engage in any criminal activities.”

    Hermes said that the same two undercover cops who busted Betterly, Chase and Church were behind the bust of Sebastian Senakiewicz and Mark Neiweem, both of Chicago. Senakiewicz was charged with falsely making a terrorist threat while Neiweem stands accused of attempted possession of an explosive device. Police have said the two plots were unrelated.

    Sunday afternoon, thousands of protesters marched from Jackson Drive and Columbus Drive, near Lake Michigan, to McCormick Place, the setting for the NATO Summit. Some 60 countries are sending delegations to the event, where diplomats are discussing the war in Afghanistan and missile defense in Europe.

    There were reports of clashes between protesters and police at the conclusion of the march, but it appears that the demonstration was largely peaceful.

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    166 comments

    The truth is that "police" are not simply policing the city streets these days. They are engaging in covert activities against American citizens at an alarming rate. The "police" mentality of "us against them" has become the primary mindset in OUR cities and towns. The militarization of police is no …

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  • 16
    May
    2012
    9:22am, EDT

    Oregon mom sued by church over online criticism

    An Oregon pastor, upset with online comments made by former church members, sues four former parishioners, seeking $500,000 for defamation. KGW's Wayne Havrelly reports.

    By Becky Bratu, Staff Writer, NBC News

    An Oregon mother of seven is being sued for defamation by her former church over critical comments she made online.

    Julie Anne Smith, a stay-at-home mom who home-schools her children, said church members began shunning her and her family after they left Beaverton Grace Bible Church almost four years ago.

    She took to the Web in October 2009 to air her concerns about the church's practices on Google reviews, but said her comments kept being pushed down by other church members' more recent reviews. So in February of this year, Smith launched a blog called Beaverton Grace Bible Church Survivors to counteract what she called the "cat and mouse game" on Google.

    "My primary issue was to discuss spiritual abuse in the church,” Smith told msnbc.com. “In essence, the legal suit is [O'Neal's] attempt of continuing that spiritual abuse.”


    But days after Smith launched her blog, pastor Charles O'Neal filed a $500,000 lawsuit against Smith, her daughter and three other former church members, claiming some of the comments posted online amounted to defamation. O'Neal has been the pastor of the church for 13 years.

    "We have not gone hastily to court," O'Neal said in a statement released to msnbc.com. "For three and a half years this group has been engaged in a public, church to church, and World Wide Web defamation, showing their willingness to discredit God, harm the church, harm wives, harm children, and harm the testimony of Christ's Gospel."

    "It is BGBC's firm conviction that this cannot continue," he added.

    In reaction to O'Neal's lawsuit, Smith's attorney filed an anti-SLAPP motion to dismiss the suit. The motion, which is meant to protect individuals sued for exercising their constitutionally protected rights, will go before a judge on May 21.

    Defamation lawsuits triggered by online comments are not unusual, but they typically involve businesses, American Civil Liberties Union attorney Aden Fine told msnbc.com.

    "It’s very clear, especially in the age of the Internet, that companies don’t like to be criticized and don’t want the world to see this criticism, and so many companies have been very aggressive about suing people for criticizing them," Fine said.

    "The result will be that people will be afraid of posting critical comments on the Internet," he said, adding that he expects these kinds of lawsuits to happen more even frequently in the future.


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    Smith, who used to play piano at the Beaverton church, said she and her family were asked to leave the congregation in November 2008, but it was almost a year before she took her grievances online. Church leaders, however, deny ever asking the Smiths to leave and claim her family left of their own accord.

    “When you’re in a cult or a spiritually abusive place, your brain takes a while to process, to uncover all of that stuff that was going on, so I was kinda stewing,” she said. "Things were coming clear to me.”

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    Smith said the shunning by church members was so extreme that one of them even skidded out of a grocery parking lot to avoid her. "They treat you worse than a stranger," she said. "It just seems so cruel.”

    She said her eldest daughter, Hannah, even left home about 4.5 years ago because she no longer wanted anything to do with the church. "My daughter willingly gave up many things to protect her sanity and leave the place that was emotionally killing her," Smith wrote on her blog.

    Smith said she tried calling and emailing the church to resolve the conflict, but received no response.

    The decision to eventually start posting reviews on Google came “out of desperation.”

    "The mama bear in me came out," she said.

    According to the complaint filed by the pastor, the defamatory statements included claims that O'Neal had "chosen to mislead the congregation" and "destroy relationships." Other messages quoted in the filing say the pastor is an example of "narcissism in the pulpit," and the church is "creepy" and uses "control tactics" for "spiritual abuse."

    "You will be fine at this church if you never question the elders or pastor," the filing quotes another statement as saying.

    Other comments Smith reportedly posted online state the church is "very destructive and disturbing."

    "Leaders of cults convince their people that their church is the only true place to be..." and "turn a blind eye to known sex offenders in the church," Smith reportedly posted on Jan. 4.

    O'Neal's attorney told msnbc.com in an email that the latter claim is "the second worst thing that any pastor can be accused of."

    Court documents revealed the sex offender claim refers to a mentally disabled teenage church member who allegedly touched one of his sisters inappropriately. His family brought the matter up with the pastor, who said the boy "was never again allowed in the church nursery and never allowed to be alone in the company of children around the church.”

    Smith said some of her statements were taken out of context in the filing, but she said she stands by everything she wrote.

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    Court filings state that another defendant, Meaghan Varela, allegedly made accusations of child abuse against the pastor, which led to a December 2008 visit from the Oregon Department of Human Services. The social worker informed O'Neal's daughter that someone also reported that pornography was being distributed to children at church.

    "The allegations of child abuse filed by Meaghan Varela were extremely painful to my family," O'Neal's daughter said in a statement.

    The DHS concluded that the child abuse allegations were "unfounded," court papers say.

    ACLU's Fine said the court will look at whether the defendants' statements qualify as opinions or assertions of fact. Opinions are protected under free speech law.

    Smith told msnbc.com she received messages of support from church members, and some told her they would like to post online about their own concerns but they're afraid.

    "They've seen what happened to me," Smith said. "[O'Neal] sued me."

    “He’s trying to bully people," she added.

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    690 comments

    She has a right to free speech. This isn't Nazi Germany. The church should get over it and leave it in God's hands...unless they don't believe in that.

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  • 4
    May
    2012
    7:44am, EDT

    Two dead, one critical in Md. church shooting

    By NBC Washington and msnbc.com staff

    A man and a woman were killed and another woman seriously injured in a possible double-shooting and suicide at a church in Maryland late on Thursday.

    A custodian at St. Peter's Episcopal Church in Ellicott City, Md., found two women in the church office who appeared to have been shot, police said.


    One woman was pronounced dead at the scene, the other was taken to hospital in a critical condition.

    Police found a man dead of an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound in the nearby woods, police said. A gun was found near the body.

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    The women's and man's identities have not been confirmed.

    The Baltimore Sun reported that police spokeswoman Sherry Llewellyn said it was too early in the investigation to speculate about a connection between the women and the man.

    It quoted Steve Fairall, who lives on Main Street in Ellicott City, saying he often rides his bike in the neighborhood around the church.

    "It's pretty upper-middle-class. It's a nice neighborhood, a lot of families," he reportedly said.

    When he heard about the shootings, he "just thought it was somebody targeted. I didn't think it was any crazy gunmen running around,” the newspaper said.

    Msnbc.com's Alastair Jamieson contributed to this report.

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    Let me stir the pot here a little. Reading some of these postings I have to comment that each persons opinion is just as important to them as is yours to you. Try if you disagree to be a liitle bit more dignified and respectable in your response. Being obnoxious in your response just belittles you n …

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  • 26
    Mar
    2012
    4:55pm, EDT

    Landmark Catholic priest abuse trial begins in Philadelphia

    By msnbc.com staff and news services

    PHILADELPHIA -- After nine years and two grand jury reports, prosecutors have brought a landmark case to trial that explores how the Archdiocese of Philadelphia dealt with child sex-abuse complaints against scores of Roman Catholic priests.

    Monsignor William Lynn is the first U.S. church official ever charged over his handling of abuse complaints. He supervised more than 800 priests as the secretary for clergy in Philadelphia from 1992 to 2004.

    Prosecutors charge that Lynn kept dangerous priests in parish work around children to protect the church's reputation and avoid scandal. They say the church kept secret files dating to 1948 that show a long-standing conspiracy to doubt sex abuse victims and protect priests.

    Assistant District Attorney Jacqueline Coelho called the case "a battle between right and wrong within the archdiocese and the office of secretary for clergy."

    Defense lawyer Thomas Bergstrom said Monday that Lynn had the "ugly job" of overseeing sex abuse complaints, but that Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua alone determined priest assignments and transfers.

    "There is documentary evidence that the sexual abuse of children happened in the Catholic Church," Bergstrom said. "We're not going to run from that. He (Lynn), perhaps alone, is the one who tried to correct it."

    Solemn in court
    Lynn, 61, appeared solemn in court, where he has appeared over the past few months for pretrial hearings and jury selection.

    He has been under investigation for eight years, through two grand jury investigations that blasted Bevilacqua and his successor, Cardinal Justin Rigali, saying they covered up child sex complaints lodged against more than 60 priests.

    The church kept secret files dating back to 1948 that show a long-standing conspiracy to doubt sex abuse victims, protect priests and avoid scandal, Assistant District Attorney Jacqueline Coelho said in opening statements.

    "You can't protect the church without keeping the allegations in the dark," Coelho told jurors, The Philadelphia Inquirer reported. "He kept the parishioners in the dark and he kept the faithful in the dark."

    Coelho called the case "a battle between right and wrong within the archdiocese and the office of secretary for clergy."

    Coelho outlined the decades-old sexual abuse complaints found buried in secret archives to build a case against Monsignor William Lynn, who supervised priests as secretary for clergy from 1992 through 2004. Lynn is the first U.S. church official charged for his administrative role in the sex abuse crisis.

    He is on trial with the Rev. James Brennan, who is charged with the attempted rape of a 14-year-old boy in 1996. Both men entered not guilty pleas before the jury Monday.

    Co-defendant Edward Avery, a defrocked priest, entered a surprise guilty plea Thursday to a sexual assault charge and will serve 2½ to five years in prison. Avery also acknowledged that the archdiocese kept him in parish work despite knowing of an earlier complaint lodged against him, a point that could bolster the conspiracy charge against Lynn.

    Coelho said the archdiocese did little or nothing about sex abuse complaints until the church's sex abuse scandal exploded in Boston in 2002.

    "Victims are met with skepticism and priests are believed ... at all costs," Coelho said, speaking softly to the jury.

    'Warning signs or red flags'
    Attorneys for Lynn and Brennan plan to attack the credibility of the priests' troubled adult accusers, though that strategy took a hit last week when Avery pleaded guilty, confirming one accuser's account of a brutal 1999 sexual assault inside a church sacristy. All three priests were to be tried together before Avery admitted that he abused a 10-year-old altar boy.

    Prosecutors say the 61-year-old Lynn transferred priests to new parishes when a problem arose or told parishioners that their priest was taking a "health leave" when he was going for therapy or to a "safe" assignment at an old-age home. Before long, problem priests were back in parish work, with unsupervised access to children.

    "By ignoring warning signs or red flags, Fr. Lynn kept Brennan and Avery in ministry, where they were able to hurt children," Coelho said.

    Lynn remains the focal point of the trial. He could get up to 28 years in prison if convicted of two counts each of conspiracy and child endangerment.

    He has argued that he prepared a list of 37 accused priests in 1994 and sent it up the chain to Cardinal Anthony Bevilacqua — only to have Bevilacqua have it shredded. The cardinal died this year, but his videotaped deposition could be played at trial.

    The trial will be closely followed by Catholics across the country, including some who say their lives were destroyed.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.

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    The Catholic church is just evil!

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  • 30
    Jan
    2012
    5:39pm, EST

    Clerk charged with stealing $1 million from NY archdiocese

    By msnbc.com staff and nbcnewyork.com

    A longtime worker for the Archdiocese of New York has been accused of using accounting tricks to steal more than $1 million from the church, law enforcement officials and church leaders said.

    Anita Collins was arrested Monday after an investigation by Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance’s office. She was expected to be arraigned later in the day.

    Prosecutors alleged Collins spent $18,000 of the stolen money on furniture from Bloomingdale's; $23,000 on clothing at Barney's; $14,000 on clothing at Brooks Brothers; and $19,000 on trinkets from an Irish gift store.

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    Collins allegedly engaged in a “sophisticated fraud to manipulate the accounts payable system in the Department of Education Finance Office,” Joseph Zwilling, director of communications for the Archdiocese of New York, said in a statement.

    Zwilling said Archdiocese officials uncovered what they initially believed to be at least $350,000 in stolen funds and reported their suspicions to the Manhattan DA.

    “As a result of the investigation conducted by the Manhattan D.A. and with the full cooperation of the Archdiocese, it has been determined that the amount stolen is approximately $1 million,” Zwilling said.

    Collins began working for the Archdiocese in 2003 and was fired Dec. 6 when the alleged fraud was discovered, Zwilling said.

    “This defendant is accused of stealing from the Archdiocese for seven and a half long years,” said Vance. “It appears that she only stopped because she finally got caught. I would like to thank the Archdiocese for detecting the initial fraud, referring the matter to my Office, and for its full cooperation throughout the investigation.”

    Collins was promoted to manage the Archdiocese finances at the main office after having earlier worked in the education finance office, according to the New York Post.

    Police told the Post she allegedly issued 450 checks for phony invoices, each deposited into bank accounts she controlled. The checks allegedly totaled less than $2,500 -- an amount that would trigger a sign-off from a supervisor.

    The Bronx woman has a criminal record for grand larceny in 1999 in an earlier job and the Archdiocese never ran a background check on her, the Post reported.

    “Sadly, there will always be individuals who seek to exploit and circumvent whatever system is established, but we will remain vigilant in our oversight,” Zwilling said.

    Collins remained in jail Monday evening.

    Her lawyer's name wasn't immediately available, according to the Associated Press.

    The New York Times first reported Collins' arrest.

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    Well, maybe the Catholic Church should be accused of theft by deception. Jesus repeatedly told his disciples to give everything to the poor. They shouldn't have that kind of money to begin with, especially when a million of it can disappear almost unnoticed.

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  • 30
    Dec
    2011
    11:02am, EST

    Detroit churches face up to downsizing

    Detroit's struggles with a declining population and the near-death of the U.S. auto industry are well documented, but less well known are the travails of the local Catholic church, the latest institution in this failing city to face up to downsizing. 

    Reuters photographer Mark Blinch and reporter John Stoll visited two churches in the run-up to Christmas, one abandoned, another under threat of closure.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    The inside of the Martyrs of Uganda Catholic Church, which closed in 2006, is seen in Detroit on Dec. 18, 2011. When a Catholic church closes, the land and buildings go back to the archdiocese. The neighboring parishes can come and take their pick of relics or ecclesiastical equipment. If a new tenant doesn't materialize, criminals sometimes do. Thieves often strip the building of copper or pluck out stained glass.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    A damaged organ at the abandoned Martyrs of Uganda Catholic Church.

    The Martyrs of Uganda church, closed by the archdiocese in 2006, is today littered with rubble, collapsed confessionals and a broken organ. Moss grows on its floors. The windows are gone and support pillars are crumbling because stones have been removed.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    Chris Mitchell walks up the stairs at the St. Leo Catholic Church, which was built more than 120 years ago.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    People stand as they take part in the Sunday mass at the St. Leo Catholic Church in Detroit on Dec. 18, 2011. St. Leo, located in one of the most abandoned pockets of the nation's most depressed city, is operating on life support.

    The second church they visited, St. Leo, is on life support. It remains an integral part of the community, helping to keep its neighborhood afloat with a soup kitchen as well as free medical and dental care for local residents. But it is among nine parishes earmarked for closure in the Detroit area within the next few years.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    Larry Finklea eats his lunch at the soup kitchen in the basement of the St. Leo Catholic Church.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    Jerry McCullough, left, gets a check up by Dr. Ed Jelonek, who is working on his own free time, at the Order of Malta Medical and Dental Clinic for low income Michigan residents in the basement of St. Leo Catholic Church.

    The archdiocese has cut its parish count in Detroit's city limits to 59, down from 79 in 2000. The man in charge of the downsizing is Archbishop Allen Vigneron, who says he understands what's on the line at St. Leo and other churches.

    "I am very attentive to the good work that the Holy Spirit has already got us doing ... it's not my job to rip that apart, it's my job to keep these good things going in the future," he said.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    A woman walks past the St. Leo Catholic Church, which is among nine parishes earmarked for closure in the Detroit area within the next few years.

    Mark Blinch / Reuters

    A woman prays during the Sunday mass at the St. Leo Catholic Church.

    Read John Stoll's full report, Dark holiday in Detroit as church downsizes, and see more of Mark Blinch's pictures at Reuters' Photographers Blog.

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    135 comments

    ... the point is, my friend, sadness that a once great city is on life support, not always because of its own internal problems, that a once vibrant archdiocese is also struggling ... that we live in a nation who allows the very wealthiest to thrive off of the lifeblood of the majority who grow ever …

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  • 17
    Dec
    2011
    11:45am, EST

    50 arrested as Occupy Wall Street tries to seize church lot for new camp

    Miranda Leitsinger/msnbc.com

    Occupy Wall Street protesters in Duarte Square in lower Manhattan.

    By Miranda Leitsinger, Staff Writer, NBC News

    Updated at 7:45 p.m. ET

    NEW YORK, NY --  A festive and celebratory mood quickly turned tense and angry Saturday as New York police arrested about 50 Occupy Wall Street protesters at a church-owned lot demonstrators had hoped to use as a camp site.


    A dozen or so protesters climbed a wooden ladder into the fenced lot at Duarte Square, witnesses said. One of them was George E. Packard, an Occupy Wall Street supporter and retired Episcopal bishop to the Armed Forces and Chaplaincies, according to J.A. Myerson, a writer with Truthout.

    Andrew Burton / Reuters

    Retired Episcopal bishop George E. Packard (left), who is affiliated with the Occupy Wall Street movement, climbs a ladder Saturday to church-owned land near Juan Pablo Duarte Square during a march in New York as anti-Wall Street protesters tried to establish a new encampment.

    PhotoBlog: Occupy Wall Street tries to seize church lot for new camp

    Several hundred people gathered across the street, where dozens of police tried to clear sidewalks as people shouted and screamed at them. After the arrests, a few hundred protesters made a blocks-long, late-afternoon march to the church rectory chanting, "For every eviction another occupation" and "Bloomberg beware, Zuccotti Park is everywhere." They later headed uptown to Times Square. 

    Legal sources say about 50 people were arrested, though the NYPD press office said late Saturday they did not have the arrest tally and protesters were still being arrested.

    "This whole occupation has been a lesson in freedom for me," said Ashley Perry, 24, who traveled from her home in Tampa, Fla., to support her New York counterparts. "If you still think that you have your First Amendment rights, go out and try to express them… and see how long it takes for someone to come and shut you down -- it will happen quickly."

    Earlier in the day, demonstrators played drums, cymbals and trombones, held group meetings and waved signs with a variety of messages -- "Disobedience is civil" and "Sorry to inconvenience your apathy" -- as they marked the completion of three months with a major direct action that they hoped would give them a new home as authorities continue to shutter camps nationwide. 

    Miranda Leitsinger/msnbc.com

    Retired Episcopal bishop George E. Packard, right in purple robe, sits among other detained protesters in the Trinity Church lot on Saturday.

    Protesters -- flanked by police officers -- coalesced on the nearly half-acre plot about one mile northwest of their former camp at Zuccotti Park. But their potential new landlord at Duarte Square, Trinity Church, voiced strong opposition.

    "We do not ... believe that erecting a tent city at Duarte Square enhances their mission or ours," The Rev. Dr. James H. Cooper, said in a statement Saturday and posted to the church website. "The vacant lot has no facilities to sustain a winter encampment. In good conscience and faith, we strongly believe to do so would be wrong, unsafe, unhealthy, and potentially injurious. We will continue to provide places of refuge and the responsible use of our facilities in the Wall Street area."

    Linda Hanick, a spokeswoman for the church, said earlier this week that their position would not change and on Friday, a statement from the city's bishop sided with Trinity.

    Under the banner of "Re-Occupy," the protesters said more than 1,400 people -- elders of the civil rights movement, prominent artists, faith leaders and community members -- would help them try and set up camp. The total numbers were not known, though several hundred people appeared to have joined the effort, with people being photographed at the "99% photobooth," while others danced around musicians and chanted, "Occupy." A group of hunger strikers with a sign reading "Day 15" also gathered at the site.

    Miranda Leitsinger/msnbc.com

    A man poses with a sign for the '99% photo booth.'

    "I'm just loving seeing everybody from Zuccotti Park and it really puts an exclamation point on the (question) that's been asked today so many times, 'Do you guys need a space?' ... and the answer is, 'yes.' When you walk around and see the familiar faces and the kindred spirits and the unification of effort, then you realize yes we do need a space so that we can all be together and function as whole as a group and move forward, no doubt," said Thorin Caristo, a 37-year-old protester who is part of an independent livestream team.

    Occupy Wall Street said in a statement ahead of the day: "Outdoor public space plays a crucial role in this civic process and encourages open, transparent organizing in our movement, unbeholden to a broken political system. As we saw in Liberty Square (Zuccotti Park), outdoor space invites people to listen, speak, share, learn, and act. It is a source of inspiration and empowerment."

    Trinity Church has provided the protesters with meeting rooms and use of their neighborhood center, but rejected an earlier attempt on Nov. 15 by the protesters to move into the Duarte Square lot. The church's operations include an Episcopal parish, a commercial realty business and a grant-making organization.

    Miranda Leitsinger/msnbc.com

    Protesters create balloons of protest at Duarte Square on Saturday.

    "Here's a extremely wealthy church ... that can choose between its real estate empire and its conscience. This would be a big help to social justice organizing," Bill Dobbs, of the public relations working group, said Friday.

    Dobbs said the movement had suffered a "setback" with the loss of its camp, but the organizing and protests had continued. Still, "it sure is helpful to have … a center of gravity," he added.

    More photos of Occupy Wall Street's attempt to move into Duarte Square

    One of the former leaders of the Students for a Democratic Society, Todd Gitlin, said that if the protesters didn't get the site, it was not a big deal, noting that Occupy Wall Street had become a more organized structure since it began with events going on continuously: "I think it's always a mistake to judge very much from what happens on a particular day."

    Gitlin noted the movement currently "stands on the sidewalks."

    "It's in the process of adjusting to two things: Number one, the loss of camps, and number two, we stand on the brink of an election year," Gitlin, a professor of sociology and journalism, said standing near the fence encircling the proposed new camp. "The eviction means that what was already a major tendency in the movement is even more prominent now, namely decentralism. It's dispersed. Lots of things are going on all the time."

    Miranda Leitsinger/msnbc.com

    Occupy think tank working group meets at Duarte Square in lower Manhattan as part of their bid to set up a new camp.

    Not all protesters agreed with how the day's actions came about, noting that an affinity group (one that shares the values and opinions of the movement), "kind of did this without the real consent of Occupy Wall Street," said Jason Harris, who had lived in the movement's Zuccotti Park encampment.

    "A lot of people in Occupy Wall Street ... think that it sets a dangerous precedent that affinity groups can use the name, idea and basically assume sponsorship by Occupy Wall Street to do basically things that they decide they think that they need to do, which aren't necessarily in the best interests logistically" of the movement, said Harris, a university student in public policy, adding that Trinity Church had been a "bit of an ally" to the group. "Although this is wonderful, I'm afraid of how kind of autonomous actions by affinity groups within OWS could potentially damage Occupy Wall Street."

    Another protester, Tim Taylor, a student and former Marine from Seattle aged in his 40s, said he was a little disappointed in the turnout.

    "It’s going to take a huge impact and that impact is  basically the volume of people, to see you know Manhattan filled with 50,000, 100,000, 150,000 people and to disrupt an average person’s moment in the day … then you start to make an impact," he said as protesters marched to the city’s midtown neighborhood, passing by police with orange mesh used to kettle demonstrators. "But it shows promise that, you know, it’s a young organization that’s only been around for three months … and it’s spread around the country, if not even around the world. ...

    "Nothing is ever easy and nothing is ever quick," he added. "You have to put in an effort and you have to work for it, and this group shows that they’re willing to do that."

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    NO...the OWS crowd needs to migrate to where their true fans are; Pelosi and Obama. Set up camp outside Congress, and the back yard "west lawn" of the White House. You are welcome there by you biggest supporters.

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  • 15
    Dec
    2011
    7:53pm, EST

    Thieves clean out Georgia church ... during the service

    "They left the Bibles," Pastor Mona Harper tells Bill Liss of WXIA-TV.
    By msnbc.com staff and NBC News

    Thieves tore apart the youth center of a Georgia church and made off with nearly everything they could — including a refrigerator, a stove, a microwave oven, broilers and the copper in the ceiling — while the congregation worshiped during Sunday services upstairs, the church's pastor says.

    "They stood on the chairs and took all the copper. They took our kitchen utensils," said Mona Harper, pastor of Kingdom City Church in Stone Mountain, a suburb of Atlanta.


    But then they went a step further, NBC station WXIA of Atlanta reported.

    "They took crayons, magic markers and DVDs. They left the Bible and the Scrabble game, but they took the board games," Harper said.

    "Things that we use to get kids off the street, they just took it," she said.

    WXIA-TV

    Pastor Mona Harper surveys the damage at Kingdom City Church in Stone Mountain, Ga.

    The break-in was discovered Wednesday when members arrived for weekly Bible study. Harper said she believes the break-in started during Sunday night services because the sound system and lights began malfunctioning.

    "They were apparently downstairs cutting electricity to some of our units," she told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.

    News of the break-in galvanized community support in the Atlanta area.

    Within an hour, Home Depot — whose corporate headquarters is in Atlanta — donated a refrigerator, a stove and a microwave oven. The School Box, a chain of education supply stores in the Atlanta, offered to replace the stolen school supplies. Mount Carmel Christian Church in Stone Mountain, meanwhile, offered to let Kingdom City use its facilities for services.

    Harper, whose leads the congregation with her husband, James, the church's bishop, said the robbery had left her undeterred.

    "If somebody could come in on a Sunday night while church is going on and literally rob a church — not only rob it but endanger the people and possibly could have set this place on fire — I believe that my work here is more needed than it's ever been."

    Police said they were investigating the incident.

    M. Alex Johnson of msnbc.com contributed to this report by Bill Liss of NBC station WXIA of Atlanta. Follow M. Alex Johnson on Twitter and Facebook.

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    "If somebody could come in on a Sunday night while church is going on and literally rob a church — not only rob it but endanger the people and possibly could have set this place on fire — I believe that my work here is more needed than it's ever been." Yes, Pastor Harper.

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