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  • 4
    Apr
    2013
    6:50pm, EDT

    Florida court: Undocumented immigrant can't be admitted to bar

    Denny Henry for NBCNews.com

    Jose Manuel Godinez-Samperio poses for a portrait on Capitol Hill, April 19th, 2011. Godinez-Samperio is an undocumented immigrant who is pushing for immigration law reform.

    By Miranda Leitsinger, Staff Writer, NBC News

    An undocumented immigrant who applied for a law license in Florida cannot be admitted to the bar, the State Supreme Court said Thursday in a case being watched closely by both sides of the immigration debate.

    But the decision, according to legal observers, did not appear to be an actual rejection of the request made by Jose Godinez-Samperio, 26.

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    Rather, the court indicated it would be deciding on the larger question it had been asked -- whether or not to allow people unlawfully in the country to become lawyers -- and not on a specific individual case. 

    “In this cause, the Florida Board of Bar Examiners has petitioned this Court for an advisory opinion regarding a clearly stated question. The separate issue of the individual movant's admission is not before the Court,” the court said in a short order.

    The Florida Board of Bar Examiners asked the court in late 2011 to decide if undocumented immigrants can be admitted to the state bar after receiving the application of Godinez-Samperio, an undocumented youth who came from Mexico on a tourist visa with his parents as a child.

    The board, which filed the request for an opinion last year, said last year that Godinez-Samperio met their requirements though the court has yet to issue an opinion in the case.

    After receiving a work permit on Christmas Eve last year under the new deferred action program for undocumented youth, Godinez-Samperio had his lawyer submit a “motion of admission” to the bar in January.

    That motion was rejected on Thursday, with the court indicating that the larger question on undocumented immigrants – not the specific case of Godinez-Samperio – was what they had been asked to review even though Godinez-Samperio's lawyer had been making filings in the case.

    Bob Blythe, general counsel of the Florida Board of Bar Examiners, said he didn’t “think that it’s accurate to say that the court has denied him (Godinez-Samperio) admission.”

    "They’re just saying this case isn’t about his admission but rather the more general question,” Blythe told NBC News. “The answer from the court in this case is going to be whether undocumented immigrants can be admitted and then once we get that then the court will take the appropriate action with regard to his application. … In many respects it really doesn’t change anything at this point.”

    Godinez-Samperio said the meaning of the order wasn’t entirely clear to him, but that he too felt the court was saying it would first address the larger question.

    “We had moved to the court (in January) to just go ahead and admit me already and it’s a very strange ruling … One thing we are sure about is that I haven’t been denied to become a lawyer yet,” he said, noting that he didn’t view it as a setback.

    “If anything … I am glad somebody’s looking at the file and I hope -- although I can’t predict what the court will do -- I hope that this means they’ll make a ruling soon,” he added.

    Blythe said the court didn’t have a deadline or time frame for when it would issue a ruling.

    Godinez-Samperio came to the U.S. at age nine with his parents from Pachuca, Mexico. They entered the country on tourist visas, which they overstayed. During that time, Godinez-Samperio graduated from high school, college and law school.

    A case similar to his in California has reached that state’s supreme court, too. There, the State Bar of California has gone further than its Florida counterpart in saying that Sergio Garcia, a 36-year-old who was born in Mexico and first came to the U.S. as a child, should get a license, noting he had met the rules of admission and that his lack of legal status in the U.S. should not automatically disqualify him.

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  • 9
    Aug
    2012
    3:43pm, EDT

    Florida bar: Illegal immigrant meets moral fitness test

    Denny Henry for msnbc.com

    Jose Manuel Godinez-Samperio at Capitol Hill on April 19. He is an undocumented immigrant, brought to the U.S. from Mexico as a child, who is seeking his law license in Florida in what appears to be a landmark case.

    By Miranda Leitsinger, Staff Writer, NBC News

    An illegal immigrant seeking admission to the Florida bar has met its requirements to become a lawyer, the bar said in a filing this week to the Florida Supreme Court in a case being watched closely by both sides of the immigration debate.

    Jose Godinez-Samperio is one of a few illegal immigrants in different states trying to get law licenses after passing the local bar’s two-pronged test: an exam and a moral character review.

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    Godinez-Samperio passed the exam portion of the test last year, and he was notified recently that nothing in his background would be considered “disqualifying” for the character portion. That notice was cited Monday in legal correspondence posted on the Florida court’s website.

    Now, it’s up to the state’s supreme court to decide whether his immigration status is enough to keep him from being admitted to the bar.

    “I think what the board has said is … there’s nothing that we’re aware of at this point that we would see as an impediment from a character and fitness standpoint,” Bob Blythe, general counsel for the Florida Board of Bar Examiners, told NBC News. “It’s not really a recommendation because we’re waiting to hear from the court.”

    Godinez-Samperio came to the U.S. as a 9 year old with his parents from Pachuca, Mexico. They entered the country on tourist visas, which they overstayed. During that time, Godinez-Samperio graduated from high school, college and law school.

    A case similar to his in California has reached that state’s supreme court, too. There, the State Bar of California has gone further than its Florida counterpart in saying that Sergio Garcia, a 35 year old who was born in Mexico and first came to the U.S. as a child, should get a license, noting he had met the rules of admission and that his lack of legal status in the U.S. should not automatically disqualify him.

    Garcia's father is a naturalized citizen, according to the bar, and he has been waiting 18 years for a visa that would give him legal permanent residency. His application for a law license is being weighed by the court because his case is unprecedented in the state, as is the one in Florida.

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    Many briefs in support of both men’s cases have been filed, but the federal government weighed in last week on the Garcia application and said it does not believe he should get a license.

    In that brief, Acting Assistant Attorney General Stuart Delery of the Justice Department's Civil Division said Congress has made certain illegal immigrants ineligible for federal and state public benefits, including any professional or commercial licenses provided by a federal/state agency or local government, or by funds appropriated to these institutions.


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    “These provisions were plainly designed to preclude undocumented aliens from receiving commercial and professional licenses issued by States and the federal government. Their sweeping language demonstrates that Congress intended to act comprehensively in prohibiting receipt of such benefits by undocumented aliens, and they should be construed in a manner that furthers that evident purpose,” according to the brief.

    The government also told the court that "enforcement of the federal provisions governing employment" by those without legal permission to be in the country was a responsibility of the federal government, and was not the "proper subject" of state court proceedings.

    Some 11.5 million “unauthorized immigrants,” as the Department of Homeland Security calls illegal immigrants, lived in the United States as of January 2011, according to the department’s Office of Immigration Statistics.

    President Barack Obama announced in June that some of the immigrants who came to the country as children would be able to get two-year work permits. That would not apply to Garcia, who is over the age limit of 30, but Godinez-Samperio’s lawyer said recently this should be taken into consideration in the 26-year-old’s application.

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    My problem with this is simple: he is here illegally. It sounds like he did nothing to mitigate the fact that he is here illegally. If he wants to be an attorney in the US, shouldn't he be here legally? And before anyone starts bashing me, allow me to politely remind you: he is here illegally.

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